first let me introduce my self, i am a 33yo male show spent much of his youth in the jw cult, i was not raised into the truth however thought i found it at the age of 11 when a well caring brother knocked my door, i had no father figure so this brother was everything to me, like a father, i quickly began attending meetings even when my mom used to oppose, i was taken like an example kid because i was an "orphan" in the spiritual sense, i got baptized when i was 12, and spent the rest of my teenage years being this good kid everyone thought i was, i hated that attention and pressure however it felt good to be doing good things, when i was about to finish high school i started to get into punk and ska music, i used to listen to it in secret, one time an elder found out and went to my house when i wasnt there, he went into my room and took all my cds, this was my first time i felt like i was being invaded of my privacy, i was made to feel guilty for liking this music and lost all my priviledges..theres a lot more i can say but i will stick to the main points, i became a reg pioneer, i became an ms, the whole thing, living in new york allowed me to visit bethel many times and had many many friends there, at the head quarters and walkill, in my cong we had bethelite elders etc, so yeah i was "in the club" , i always had a doubt in the back of my mind if what i was doing was the right thing, i used to rent the basement out of en elders house, he is what made me turn, he was the mos unloving person i ever met, for instance he would turn off the heat during snow storms, sometimes due to my pioneering i had no food and he knew this, well no food from him etc.
yet all this time i thought i was doing the right thing, eventually i feel in love and started dating this beautiful pioneer girl, daughter of pioneer parents as well, i never felt fully excepted because of my spiritual orphan status and no family in the truth, eventually got to a point where i could not communicate with her and her parents used to pick up the calls, they told me i could not continue to pursue a relationship with her, i was devastated!
long story short i wanted to see her etc, they put a restraining order and labeled me a stalker, made a mistake of sending her an e-mail and well, that got me arrested!!
Hmpf.... and a few posts ago, I wondered if you were hot, Brandnew. You can forget it now! *giggling*
Welcome NoDoubter! I'm a non-JW who has to swallow chunks of vomit when friends and family talk about everyone being on the same level from Governing Body members on down. "You see," they say, "the churches have all those men with titles and we don't!"
Oh, if they only knew how much I know. Jeez
follow case it may change judicial comittees
just wondering, as i will be visiting active jw family in ohio in a few weeks, do you think it will be worthwhile dropping it into a conversation, about the wtbts pyramid near his grave, or try some other topic to try and wake them up.
i was never baptized and don't really care if they get upset or not, but it is only a day trip from ohio to pittsburgh, and thought it would be fun if they denied it, and then drove their to see it for ourselves.
Million miles away?
Totally inaccurate... Ol' Chuck is laying about 5 miles from where I'm sitting right now.
just wondering, as i will be visiting active jw family in ohio in a few weeks, do you think it will be worthwhile dropping it into a conversation, about the wtbts pyramid near his grave, or try some other topic to try and wake them up.
i was never baptized and don't really care if they get upset or not, but it is only a day trip from ohio to pittsburgh, and thought it would be fun if they denied it, and then drove their to see it for ourselves.
i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.
i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.
i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.
And Wing Commander appears to be angry about practices that the majority on this board once held dear instituted by an organization whose policies you personally do not control.
in your request you didn't come off as arrogant nor did you require anyone to obey. Heck... People ask for money all the time.
Wing, I can't think of a post you've made that I didn't appreciate but right now, you aren't speaking for me. I am quite capable of declining a request without being insulting. This guy did not create your problem. The intensity of your anger makes me wonder if you've ever assaulted a street beggar. I mean... if this is all it takes. Jeez
And C'mon! Did anyone REALLY know Lett had a face made of rubber before JW TV?
still love ya
i am sorry that on my first post i am asking for help and advice but i am at my wits end.
i have been brought up a witness all my life and it is all i know.
i am an ex-elder and pioneer and i don't know anybody outside of the congregation.. i have been unhappy for so long and wanted to leave.
From the outside distrust is just embedded into the JW mindset. Over time that may change.
Scared and lonely, as a non and never have been JW, my recommendation to you is to stay grounded in what your goals are. Someone else's inability or apprehension to trust you IS NOT YOUR PROBLEM. Do not add to your existing challenges by making their problems yours. And STOP apologizing.
"I'm hurting." .... "you're a liar AND a troll!" It's like I'm watching Trump in a debate.
Personally, I don't need protection from the self appointed Troll Police Force and I'd be glad to make myself available to help you understand the general mindset of non-JWs from my perspective.
Let me know how or if I can help you.
shucks only 90 teaching books trashed last week still there is a new week starting lol
Pepper is the best at acquiring literature from carts and witnesses and tossing it. 😀
Ninety tossed is phenomenal. I have to guess you're better at acquisition and disposal than you were at distributing. Heehee
i had a chance last weekend to talk with an elder i used to serve with.
a very kind hearted and understanding elder, always showing sympathy and concern for others, looking out for the little guy, the downtrodden and oppressed, even willing to stand up to uncaring company-men co's .
he was po way back then and became the cobe in the new re-0rg, until, that is, the gb came out with the age limit.
These are the types of things that may contribute to multiple people's awakening amongst those that know the real story.
C'mon WTS - keep making these calls. It's only getting worse for you.
hi everyone i'm at work and need to show this video to a jw.
i saw it a few weeks ago i think it was geoffry jackson who said that jehovah may or may not be gods real name but we use it anyways.
can someone help me find that video?
I have been no less than SCREAMED at and .... I guess you could call it non JW shunned behind this. This would have been GOLDEN some time ago.
I showed it to the very person who lost their mind when I said in essence the same thing and the response?...
"we all know that."
I hate this cult
it is very obvious that jehovah's witlesses worship the faithful and discreet slave.
during last sunday's washtowel study, everyone bowed before them for the excellent job they did in translating the new bible into so many languages and for the direction they give to the congregation.
(i guess i sorta thought that jesus was in charge of the congregations.
😀. My JW friend said that he had some theocratic work he had to do.
To a non JW that sounds very pompous.
Told him I had to look the word up. The definition? Priceless!
On a cell phone so I can't copy paste. Typing is tedious
Google "theocratic definition" the 2nd option made me laugh even harder.
