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  Appealing a DF decision

  by HereIgo in

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  i always found it interesting that one could appeal a disfellowshipping....if jehovah doesn't make mistakes, then there wouldnt be a need to "appeal" anything to begin with right?.

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  I always found it interesting that one could appeal a disfellowshipping....if Jehovah doesn't make mistakes, then there wouldnt be a need to "appeal" anything to begin with right?
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  Are Jehovah`s Witnesses of today, aware, or even care about their early history of the 1800`s ?

  by smiddy in

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  in the 1960`s when i was a new convert , a 20 year old , i devoured the book "jehovahs witnesses in the divine purpose" outlining the early history of the restoration of true christianity in the world.it helped to convince me then that this was indeed the true religion......not that i remember much of the details it contained nowadays .. i understand there was a poor attempt to mimic it with the " proclaimers " book a much sanitized version of the early history of the jw religion.

  what reputable organization in the world ,secular ,religious or otherwise ,doctors their own early history/ beginnings unless they have something to hide or are ashamed of.. how many jw`s today would know that they were formed as the " international bible students association" in the late 1800`s , or that their first president of that association was none other than w.h.conley ,and not c.t.russell.. does it even matter ?

  does anybody really care ?.

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  I doubt many of JW's even know their history or even care. I can say this because I didn't know diddly squat about our history while I was in. I know more now that I am out! All I really knew was CT Russell founded JW's and used to be called bible students in the 1800's when it all began. I have tried having conversations about the history and asking elders and CO's questions without coming across as suspicious. One CO said " CT Russell was just a tool to spead the word, that's it" and he then moved on to another subject. I don't think they really want to distance themselves from their early history since many of it contradicts what they believe today, such as celebrating holidays etc and digging too deep may cause some to seriously question their teachings which they don't want.....
  
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  Beth Sarim

  by HereIgo in

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  how many of you know about this san diego mansion?

  i just found out about it recently.

  apparently it was built for old testament faithful men to live in upon resurrection in 1925 such as abraham, moses etc.

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  How many of you know about this San Diego mansion? I just found out about it recently. Apparently it was built for old testament faithful men to live in upon resurrection in 1925 such as Abraham, Moses etc. and Rutherford was behind the construction and idea of it all. Isn't he responsible for a lot of the current WT teachings and protocol? Makes you wonder just how much of Rutherford's ideas were BS and how much of an influence he had on many of JW weird ways.

  
  
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  Hypothetical: If WTS Reformed...?

  by Cold Steel in

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  as i said in the subject line, this is purely hypothetical.

  what do you think would happen if the wtbts leaders decided to reboot some of the organization's more controversial practices.

  not that they would deny their claims to be jehovah's earthly representatives, nor the key elements of their eschatology; but in administrative outlooks.

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  I think reform would actually cause more jws to question the WT further
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  Which Org 'directives' did you blatantly ignore

  by Tallon in

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  i remember that we were always encouraged to let everyone at work know that you were one of jw's and therefore would not participate in any of their functions, parties etc.. this i outrightly refused to do.

  my reasoning was that i was employed and paid to do a job and therefore my religious beliefs were a personal matter and therefore had nothing to do with my work.

  secondly i had to work with these people.

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  I ignored not associating with worldly friends, listening to explicit music and dating worldly girls..all as an MS
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  Which Org 'directives' did you blatantly ignore

  by Tallon in

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  i remember that we were always encouraged to let everyone at work know that you were one of jw's and therefore would not participate in any of their functions, parties etc.. this i outrightly refused to do.

  my reasoning was that i was employed and paid to do a job and therefore my religious beliefs were a personal matter and therefore had nothing to do with my work.

  secondly i had to work with these people.

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  Scratchme you are a savage lol #36 had my crying lol
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  Dumbest elder

  by Chook in

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  i went to field service group once and the young elder taking the group was wearing a hat and said the prayer with a hat on.

  i informed him later that you are not meant to have head covering, he said he was unaware of such things.

  now that the calibre of recruiting on the part of co..

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  I've learned in my time in the Org that the elders aren't exactly the sharpest tools in the shed
  
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  Disfellowhsipped for 7 years...

  by HereIgo in

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  i remember around 2009, there was a scandal going on involving 2 families in my cong where the husband in one family was having an affair with the wife of the other family.

  this resulted in pregnancy and subsequent disfellowshipping.

  what was interesting to me though was a comment made by a co from the platform.

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  I remember around 2009, there was a scandal going on involving 2 families in my cong where the husband in one family was having an affair with the wife of the other family. This resulted in pregnancy and subsequent Disfellowshipping. What was interesting to me though was a comment made by a CO From the platform. His visit came maybe a few months after the scandal. He was giving a talk and mentioned the DF arrangement and said if you cheat on your spouse you will be DF for 7 years ( He might as well of called them out by name!) Although, I don't condone what they did, how is a man qualified to put a time limit on a person's repentance? How is he qualified to decide when someone is forgiven? After all, didn't Jehovah forgive David as soon as he confessed to killing Bathsheba's husband and committing adultery with her?
  
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  Feeling very lonely

  by BlackWolf in

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  the past few months i've been feeling really depressed and kind of hopeless.

  the few people that actually were a little bit friendly to me at the hall recently moved away, and i'm feeling like more of an outcast than i already was.

  every meeting i just stand by myself by the wall and nobody cares, i feel really lonely and unloved.

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  @blackwolf, you don't sound whiney at all, we have all been there. In my opinion, it is probably a good thing that you don't speak to anyone at the hall, because when you do decide to fade, then there are additional relationships that you have to break ties with. But, I understand feeling like a loner. My advice is just try to get back to the things you like, such as riding horses. If they are rude to you be rude back. It will help to grow thick skin, after all the world definitely isn't nice. As far as the internet thing, there are programs that parents can use to monitor what sites you visit. If you are concerned about that, then try to use public wifi when you can. Just my suggestions, we are here to help!
  
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  Welcome to all the Newbies in the last six months

  by smiddy in

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  i think all of us on this forum would like to welcome all the newbies that have joined in the last six months or so ,if i`m not mistaken there seems to be an influx lately.. elders , ms ,and sisters.

  speak up and make a comment , are you happy you came here ?.

  we`d love to here from you.. smiddy.

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  @ding yes I think so too. I only had about 5 years invested and still young. As far as the generation teaching, an elder had told me that alot of jws have been leaving the truth over it. I already had doubts about it so little did he know, he helped my exit indirectly with that information.