HereIgo

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  Help me with the disfellowshipping topic, how is it NOT scriptural

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  many have said that jesus never shunned anyone.

  yet it seems that the apostle paul said to shun an unrepentant sinner, "stop keeping company" and "not even eating with such a man" 1co 5:9-12. it seems like shunning is what paul wanted us to do.

  but honestly, it doesn't seem right to me.

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  In my opinion, the key is if the person is CURRENTLY living an unrepentant lifestyle then the scriptural direction is to shun them. However, if a JW sins, even if he sinned in the past and is repentant, often times he/she can still be disfellowshipped which doesn't make sense. This is how JW's twist the scriptures. The fact that the JC leading up to a disfellowshipping is done in private is also against scripture and is a whole other batch of bullshit.
  
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  Have you ever gone back to a meeting out of curiosity?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just wondering if anyone has gone back to a meeting out of curiosity?

  (perhaps to an area far from your old khall where you know no one).

  with all the changes from 2012 onwards (videos, tv screens, new meeting format, new songs etc) it would be an odd experience to be in attendance!.

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  I am not even remotely interested. What would be the benefit? I wouldn't be able to handle putting on a fake smile while in attendance. They have caused me so much trauma. Just my 2 cents
  
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  Would You Go To A Memorial Service For A JW )if you were no longer attending the KH)?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some of my old jw friends are sickly and getting on in age.

  so far, i’ve only gone to my mother’s memorial and have avoided the kingdom hall altogether.... your thoughts please?.

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  i wouldn't attend my mothers because she wouldn't be there for mine. She has disowned me and I'm not even DF. As for anyone else in the congregation? I definitely wouldn't attend.
  
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  Dr. Phil JW episode

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hey all, below is the youtube link to watch the dr phil episode regarding jws's if anyone is interested or missed it!.

  https://youtu.be/lcv46av-8ee.

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  HereIgo

  Hey all, below is the YouTube link to watch the Dr Phil episode regarding jws's if anyone is interested or missed it!

  https://youtu.be/lcv46aV-8eE
  
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  Should private citizens be allowed to video record law enforcement?

  by Fisherman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw an article in the news yesterday that laws are going to be passed subjecting the police to being recorded by anyone while performing their duty or enforcing the law and encourages citizens to sue if they interfere.

  some law enforcement agents become angry and confiscate recording devices from people recording them while making an arrest, etc.. it does seem that the work that the police and other government agents do is public and not private or confidential so there should be nothing to hide from the cameras.

  on the other hand, how can one distinguish being shot by a camera or by a weapon until one is hit?.

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  Absolutely, we should be allowed to film. Police officers are public servants. Additionally, one does not have an expectation of privacy while out in public.
  
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  Whole families leaving the Org has increased

  by pomo6780 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have noticed in the uk a few families i used to know while in the borg have exited together.

  some include former elders and ministerial servants.

  i observed on social media pages that the kids have 'worldly' boyfriends and girlfriends and they look so much happier than they did in the org.

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  I haven't personally seen entire families leave at once, but it's not surprising. Primarily the shunning arrangement and the ARC scandal are the reasons for most leaving.
  
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  People Asking Me To Help Them Leave

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i dont know if it's due to the last convention, the recent broadcasts, the internet or just plain fatigue - but since the convention i've had a few people contact me via facebook messenger asking how i am then cutting to the chase asking me what it's like "on the outside" or "how did you adjust after leaving?

  " and asking me how they can leave the wt but keep their families.. my reply is always the same, i show real genuine interest and concern and listen to their situation.

  then i suggest a fade, how to fade, to ignore or reject elders visits, to not talk about their doubts to active jws under any circumstances and finally point them to this site.

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  Whoa, that was deep! I'm sorry your friends are going through this but its also nice to see that more and more people are waking up! Thanks for sharing.
  
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  A Little Direction Please

  by Brian J in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i'm an active elder, cobe, just got home from the meeting where i handled the treasures part and concluded by announcing a friend of mine has been d/f,.....blah blah blah...and over the last year have woken up.

  i simply cannot spill my guts to my wife and children as it would be family suicide.

  i have zero desire to bash, spread my feelings, or become an "apostate".

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  Hey Brian,

  This is a tough situation. My advice would be not to come across to your wife as critical of the organization as it may cause her to become immediately defensive. I would suggest pointing out the many failures of the organization disguised as questions to make her think. (generation change, blood doctrine flip flop, false prophecies of Armageddon, etc. I would also show her the YouTube video regarding the ARC and watch Geoffrey Jackson make a fool of himself and deny his faith. Hopefully these things would hit a nerve. Take care.
  
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  My friend the 'Super-Dub.'

  by joey jojo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i speak semi-regularly to an old friend of mine who i would describe as a super-dub.. he knows i am inactive but over the years i have peppered him with a lot of questions about the org.

  that i hoped would make him at least pause and think somewhat rationally about the reality of being a jw in this brave new- post gb 2.0 world.. we have discussed everything from the generation changes, to the u.n. , failed prophecy, flip flops, the reduction in size of the wt magazine, the closing/ consolidation of bethels including lay-offs, jw broadcasting, cart witnessing- etc, etc.. what do i mean by super-dub?

  he is a born-in, has missionary parents, he reg.

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  Joey,

  It is true, nothing can convince a super dub that they have been lied to and brainwashed. I have had conversations with JW friends, family etc. about anything ranging from doctrinal flip flops to the ARC and they don't even flinch.
  
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  When You Were A JW Did You Ever Stand For The National Anthem?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as a witness i always found a way to not have to embarrass myself by sitting down for the national anthem.. i’m curious.

  how many of you stood up for the patriotic song?.

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  I was always taught to stand merely as a sign of respect. I never sang the words or placed my hand over my heart, though.