Posts by raven

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Canada Legislature passes new bill for the protection of Transgenders. Will this mean the end of shunning policy

by Quarterback in

since shunning is looked upon as a form of hatred crime.

i wonder if these changes may alter the shunning practices in the wt world

raven

Interesting.. Where did you see the article for this? What does this bill do? Protect the trans from being discriminated against? I highly doubt the WT will change any of their shunning practices of DF'd, DA'd, or inactive ones, although they claim it's not shunning.. I'm sure they'll go with something a long the lines of how society can change but God doesn't.

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Demon possesion, bunch of crap or?

by raven in

i've been using the forum to vent and post a lot more frequently lately as a venting purpose & way to obtain peace of mind with the craziness i've been going through recently as i fade away form the org.

anyways today i'm sitting here at work and thinking to myself about demons... ok i know this sounds crazy but has anyone else out there been traumatized by the thought of demons?

i had a dream the other night, just flat out spooky and i woke and couldn't help but feeling it may have been evil ole' satan and his demons at it again.. i don't want to believe that, (trying not to, & just brushing it under the rug so to speak) but have any of you out there been talked up about demons?

raven

Hello!

I've been using the forum to vent and post a lot more frequently lately as a venting purpose & way to obtain peace of mind with the craziness I've been going through recently as I fade away form the org.
Anyways today I'm sitting here at work and thinking to myself about demons... Ok I know this sounds crazy but has anyone else out there been traumatized by the thought of demons? I had a dream the other night, just flat out spooky and I woke and couldn't help but feeling it may have been evil ole' Satan and his demons at it again.. I don't want to believe that, (trying not to, & just brushing it under the rug so to speak) But have any of you out there been talked up about demons? And how they'll possess inanimate objects and mess with us? I remember as a child I told my mom I was having bad dreams while we were visiting my grandparents one summer, & my mom practically tore down the bedroom to find out what was causing my scary dreams. She eventually found these little Egyptian statue trinkets and blamed my creepy dreams on demons possessing the trinket... Is that a bunch of bologna? I've also heard about JW's back in the day believing Smurfs were demons? LOL!

Anyways, I'm just rambling at this point, but what have you all experienced or been indoctrinated to know about demons, experiences anyone? So I know I'm not crazy.

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Regional Convention

by raven in

so how many are not going to the regional convention this year?

it will be my first year not attending as part of my fade.. i remember going for all of my childhood into adult hood, participating in stage parts even.. however, last assembly i was already mentally checked out.

i remember looking around and seeing all of people bobbing & nodding at the program talks that had been previously repeated time and time again.. almost seemed like hypnosis.. i also had a hard time with the fact that we're all supposed to be "friends" and everyone had always seemed to be so judgmental.. especially at conventions & assemblies.. things like who had the best outfit for the days, who looked the prettiest, who can snag the single ms brother.. who took the most spiritual food out of the program, how many times can you tally mark jehovah's name.

raven

So how many are not going to the Regional Convention this year? It will be my first year not attending as part of my fade.. I remember going for all of my childhood into adult hood, participating in stage parts even.. However, last assembly I was already mentally checked out. I remember looking around and seeing all of people bobbing & nodding at the program talks that had been previously repeated time and time again.. Almost seemed like hypnosis.. I also had a hard time with the fact that we're all supposed to be "friends" and everyone had always seemed to be so judgmental.. Especially at Conventions & Assemblies.. Things like who had the best outfit for the days, who looked the prettiest, who can snag the single MS brother.. Who took the most spiritual food out of the program, how many times can you tally mark Jehovah's name. BARF- It always seemed like everyone was eager for the programs to be over with so that they could mingle and gossip.. It was never encouraging for me, ever. I always left feeling drained, sad, and not good enough for Jehovah. Anyways, I'm looking forward to enjoying my Friday, Saturday, & Sunday doing whatever I want!

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1st Year not attending RC

by BeautifulMind in

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i feel relieved to spend that time doing anything else but sitting in a stadium for 8 hours with only an hour break listening to the same talks i've been hearing since i was a child.

not to mention trying to keep my young boys quiet so i wouldnt get the evil looks in my section😂😂.

lot of walking was going on for us to try and tire them out.

raven

Next month will be my first year not attending... Looking forward to enjoying my Friday, Saturday, & Sunday doing whatever I want, and not sitting in nosebleeds for 8 hours on a hard blue seat listening to the same repeated talks..

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Where did Jehovah go ?

by Deleteandrestart in

for the many years i was mentally " in " the congregation, i equated the organisation as interchangeable with the persona of jehovah, in effect whatever the organisation said or thought, that was what jehovah thought and that was what jehovah said.... it was that simple.

so when i found out the ttatt and the cynical moves of the organisation over the years,including 1975 , the donation arrangements, the united nations, etc i was devastated and thought " where's jehovah in all of this?".

the god who i'd poured my heart out to on many occasions and who i thought was silently listening and hearing my pleas ..... was not there , .

raven

I feel the same way.. I got baptized at 17 (young and naive) tried hard to genuinely form a relationship with God, but... I felt nothing, it was like I was talking to the air. No prayers ever answered, no relief from depression or anxiety, etc, nothing, never felt anyone was listening. The org uses this "friendship with God" as something you MUST have. And those that cannot seem to obtain it are left feeling low. I am fading out of the org but find it difficult to cope with the fact of feeling I've been duped. I've always wondered about those who claim to have the best friendship ever with God, even though he can't even speak back to them? That is something I can't seem to grasp..

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A cording to today's wt not speaking to someone is evil

by poopie in

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wow

raven

I am continuing to realize the real truth about all of this, I remember reading the experience of Olga- I didn't think twice about what kind of abuse she returned to the husband by not going in to attend her father in-laws funeral service buy standing outside.. This is because I was under mind control, and robotic thinking... Makes you think deeper when you come to your senses and realize the hypocrisy of the org.. Upsetting...

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Overlapping gen teaching- Help?

by raven in

hi friends,.

can someone please help explain to me the overlapping generations teaching?

i have not been able to grasp this one or what it even applies to?

raven

So confusing.. What is the point of having this teaching then? If all of those who partake are going to heaven anyways?

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Overlapping gen teaching- Help?

by raven in

hi friends,.

can someone please help explain to me the overlapping generations teaching?

i have not been able to grasp this one or what it even applies to?

raven

Hi friends,

Can someone please help explain to me the overlapping generations teaching? I have not been able to grasp this one or what it even applies to? I have read on the forum that many say this is what lead them to realize the TTATT..

I am trying to fade but also trying to research and learn as much as I can to help me solidify that the org is a lie.

Thank you!

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Any one from Colorado?

by raven in

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any one on the forum in the colorado area?.

i would love to get to know local ones who are out of the organization or who are currently df'd da'd faded.

i am going through some tough times trying to endure the journey of fading out of the organization and would love to get to know all of your stories as well as those locally!.

raven

@ BlackWolf

I used to live in Florida!! How crazy, we both switched states!

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I need food for thought..

by raven in

hi friends,it has been 20 years that i've slaved for the wt and through out the past couple of years i could feel myself fighting an urge to accept that something was not right.

i fought it off for so long only for it to resurface frequently throughout my years of pioneering, assembly/convention parts, & speaking with people about the "truth", slaving and giving to try to be a "spiritual person" but in reality i was not spiritual because spirituality (according to the org) is doing all of the things they want you to do.

which then will label you as spiritual... no !!!

raven

Hi friends,

It has been 20 years that I've slaved for the WT and through out the past couple of years I could feel myself fighting an urge to accept that something was not right. I fought it off for so long only for it to resurface frequently throughout my years of pioneering, assembly/convention parts, & speaking with people about the "truth", slaving and giving to try to be a "spiritual person" but in reality I was not SPIRITUAL because spirituality (according to the org) is doing all of the things THEY want you to do. Which then will label you as spiritual... NO !!!

I feel myself becoming more and more frustrated and upset by this not because of my public reproof and the humiliation that has come with that. BUT because I feel like I know NOTHING, I want so badly to be spiritual and come to know God and Jesus..

Friends if you have anything that has helped you to research, read, study, and delve into regarding the JW doctrines, scriptures, anything that will help me to solidify that this isn't right? Am I beginning to "wake up" as some would say, am I starting to realize the truth about the truth? OR am I just being blinded by Satan's influence...? I'm so confused.. Being apart of something from BIRTH is so hard to escape from when it is the only "spiritual" teaching I know..

Feeling very depressed right now,

R