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  Do we need to know? Are we trapped in the thought?

  by cyberjesus in

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  when i learned ttatt i fell in deep depression.

  after i came out of the depression i started to look for the right religion.. i wanted desperately to find the "truth" .

  i was confused since many top xjw went different paths.

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  BluePill2

  Dear cyberjesus, people do things for different reasons.

  Some are here in the spirit of "Never forget". They need some kind of assurance that they are on the "right path" now.

  Others are here to help others to "get it" or to lend a helping hand to the ones that are suffering and come here to vent.

  For others it's just the habit to come back to a forum that helped them many years ago. Now it is just chit chatting as in any other forum.

  Myself, I don't have to find any truth. I construct my own truths. I left 2 years ago, but it wasn't hard in the sense of losing faith or searching for god. Just the loss of family and friends was hard to me. I became a non believer, atheist or whatever you want to call it during my time at Bethel. I never visited a website before I completely lost faith in the Bible as an inspired book. I was an elder and worked closely with people from the Writing Department (Publishing), but many things drove me into a state of not being interested anymore in the "universal questions".

  I have found inner peace. I don't care what happens after death sets in (hint: nothing. Atoms go back to the pool of atoms. Nothing special.)

  I enjoy the now and the present.
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  Poll---How Many Are Facebook Users & On Average How Often Are You On That Site?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i have facebook.

  i probably get on it 4 or 5 days a week, typically to see what's going on with family and those i know.

  plus pictures!.

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  BluePill2

  Never.

  Deleted my account and absolutely hate FB. Privacy is treated like an old dog bone.

  I don't need to be in touch with "old friends and family" I DA'ed myself 2 years ago, all my family is still in. No need to talk to them.

  Personal experiences:

  - After my DA JW started stalking me on FB, getting information from there and using it against me in the most pathetic ways.

  - Found out that I have a new girlfriend (not a Witness ) and started harrassing her, so that she had to block dozens of persons and constantly rejects fake FB friend requests. They made my Life hell for a couple of weeks.

  - Guys constantly "hitting" on my gf (she still has an account, I don't care what she does there, but it annoys me).

  I also regularly short their stock - making good money with the downfall

  I wish there was a way to short Watchtower stocks...
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  CO Disfellowshipped in UK

  by konceptual99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, i have it on very good authority that a co has recently been disfellowshipped in the uk.

  he has just finished serving the north west london area.

  i don't know any details but perhaps there is someone who does know what happened.

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  BluePill2

  Usually "cases" with CO's or DO's are handled by Bethel heavies. I used to be one of them, and to add to my sad "career" (not proud of it), I was also part of the group of Bethel elders that got called for "special cases".

  Anyway, your bets would be golden ...in all the cases where I had to sit through a JC with a CO it was always because of ...if you know what I mean.

  I remember one "funny" case. He was mexican, absolutely and total serious type of guy. Some kind of Witness-Gestapo-man. Single, 40ish something. Then one day a pioneer sister comes to talk to us - single girl, 25 or something - big belly...no way to explain why her belly was growing by the minute! Once she dropped the name of the happy Papa, I almost peed my pants laughing (ok, had to go out to the toilets). Not being rude or something, but she was truly in love with him and they fit together like a silk gown on a donkey.

  Funny moments.

  Unlike some other JC that robbed my sleep...for years!
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  Fall of Giants---Ken Follet

  by ldrnomo in

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  2. current

  one of the most freeing things i've been able to do since fading from the watchtower's tendril like grasp is, "read what i want to" i particularly enjoy historial novels because they entertain and inform all at the same time.

  i'm just finishing the first of a trilogy "fall of giants" and there was a paragraph that made me think of the great influence of propaganda machines (probably because i was so influenced by the watchtower) i am hugely aware of it's power to lead people all over the place like the waves of the sea i suppose.. here is the paragraph:.

  maud knew the proprietor of the mail, lord northcliffe.

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  BluePill2

  I love reading. Always read everything, no matter how it was seen by the Borg. Got lots and lots of problems with my ex-wife and family (remember one summer reading Browns Da Vinci Code with a group of family members - around 20 people - on the beach and getting hammered because of reading "Satans books"). Nevermind. Love Ken Follet novels, have read them all - with exception of Fall of Giants. I want to read the two sets "in one go" but have limited time now.

  As for your interesting thinking process.

  Human activities always circle around the same issues - going on for millenia: survival, reproduction and fullfiling some other biological needs. In this sense you can see a "never ending circle" of the same - lust for power, for possessions, for dominance, etc. The same feelings that a Egyptian Pharao had are present in a modern day Fortune 500 CEO.

  BUT!

  At the same time we have this evolving-adaptive mind system and eventually we change. Some things of the past are not repeated, we learn that burning red haired woman at a stake is not practical to the other more important survival needs. If only for selfish reasons we drop some things and adopt new ones. This is good and gives Life a surprise effect and mystery.

  You have media that is releasing dumb, stupid stuff to the masses, but now we also have something like a worldwide, common thinking. "Hive mind" or "Collective consciousness" which is a modern, new phenomenon and changed humanity FOREVER. THIS will bring new variations into the development of humanity - to the good or the bad - we don't know, but humans and biological beings ALWAYS strive for self-preservance and survival FIRST. Sometimes in history this has lead to killing others and sometimes we have avoided wars and mass destruction because our selfish-survival oriented mind knows that it is detrimental to survival and self-replicating.

  I don't think "history repeats itself".
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  Lets get real and heal, and give some space to those that are trying to do both

  by AllTimeJeff in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i didn't mean being real and trying to heal to rhyme, but essentially, that's why people come here.

  and depending on where we are, we need space.

  when you leave, one thing you will learn, quickly or otherwise, is what is reality.

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  BluePill2

  Thank you AlltimeJeff. I also wanted to thank minimus for posting here. I love to see the "oldtimers" sticking around. It gives me some sense of tranquility, because you have accompanied so many of us throughout the years and it gives strength to this board. Thank you!
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  Survey: Who here is an atheist? Who here still believes in God?

  by Christ Alone in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just wanted to take a survey.

  let's not let this get into the same old same old debate of atheism vs belief.

  just respond with "atheist" or "believer" or "maybe god exists".

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  BluePill2

  Easy. Atheist.
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  What is the most fun you can have as a JW without punishment or guilt?

  by usualusername in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was just thinking of of the fun i had since leaving the jws and many things i have done since would fall foul of judicial action.. .

  even inviting a female neighbour over for tea could have caused problems, which got me to thinking.

  how much fun can you have as a witness guilt free?.

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  BluePill2

  Define "guilt" and I will tell you what you can do without punishment (the latter being the easiest to avoid, the first is where this question hinges).

  IMHO
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  What is the purpose of your life as a human being and what are your plans for the future?

  by Healthworker in

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  thanks!.

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  love healthworker.

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  BluePill2

  This is another one that was instilled by the Borg. "You HAVE to HAVE a purpose. We can't just "be" Great trap for people that are looking for the "greater purpose" - it is a question as important as: How many angels can make love on top of a needle (or something like that). This is not being pessimistic, it's how Life works.

  We are great "sensorial machines" our bodies catch signals and enjoy some of them and avoid others. That's basically it. Our brain tries to keep us alive and to avoid a premature death. That's it. And then our biological cells want to replicate in form of the next (hopefully) better version of ourselves. That's it.

  If you are looking for ways to "fill that sensorial databank", be my guest - I am on the way to get some of these off my list:

  http://www.bucketlist.org/ < you will find enough things to keep you occupied for the rest of your Life. A shame that I had to "wake up" with 40 and now I am "behind schedule" with all the things that I want to tick off before I become dust.

  This is another one:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vo0Cazxj_yc

  It doesn't matter - have fun while the ride lasts!

  I wish you all the very, very Best and may your deepest, darkest wishes come true...
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  2012 Annual Meeting

  by obarac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2012 annual meeting - october 6th 2012.

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  BluePill2

  GB: "We have a big, important announcement to make. Please arrange money to come."

  GB: Announcement: New Years Text.

  Everybody:
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  2012 Annual Meeting

  by obarac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2012 annual meeting - october 6th 2012.

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  BluePill2

  they expect these broke ass missionaries to fly back? They are whacko.

  Some missionaries have wealthy family members who support them financially. I know of at least one missionary couple who take longer, more frequent, and more exotic vacations than I can dream of.

  Yep! I have worked with a lot of missionaries in different assignments and it always struck me that most of them are afluent or have big wads of cash being thrown their way (they are like saints in their back homo congos). I personally dealt with missionaries that have nice cars, appartments in Florida and one couple had a small yacht parked somewhere. Lots of them have good cars that are above the living standards of people that actually work, not to speak of the countries where they are assigned.

  Also: if this is true, they will run back to their homo congos and beg for the cash to come miracously their way, because of "important meeting".

  Good luck with that, in midst of this ugly-ass-recession!