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  Do jw youths understand

  by carla in

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  do jw youths understand that if they just didn't get baptized their parents would not be able to shun them later?

  they must be able to see how this works in other families.

  is it feasable for a jw teen to reject baptism?

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  seven006

  Sarcasm? Me? Never!
  
  
  I had heard that but didn’t know all the details. It’s hard to listen to details when you’re on the ground kicking your heels on the floor and laughing your ass off.
  
  
  What did they come up with as the new definition of a generation? Wheneeeeeeever?
  
  
  I don’t understand it. There has to be a dooms day for dooms day cults to exist. Without a definite dooms day picked out, they are just a run of the mill cult. Next thing you know they are going to start running TV commercials and hiring a marketing firm to help them get new suckers. After that they might start trying to conserve spending their millions or even ask to give more money for the world wide preaching work like Jim and Tammy Fay Baker did.
  
  
  I thought they were different. They could have been a contender…they could have been somebody. STELLA…..STELLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!
  
  
  This cult just cracks me up.
  
  
  Dave
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  Do jw youths understand

  by carla in

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  do jw youths understand that if they just didn't get baptized their parents would not be able to shun them later?

  they must be able to see how this works in other families.

  is it feasable for a jw teen to reject baptism?

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  As with most things that might nail the JW’s down to a definitive answer, they redefine the meaning of “pressure” and call it “encouragement”. If a DF’ed one later comes back and tells their parents that they pressured them into getting baptized their parents adamantly say they did not, “it was the child’s own decision”, and that they only encouraged it.
  
  The average JW learns how to redefine any given situation by their cult leaders to swing an explanation of anything toward what ever fits the JW mold. Such as “it was Satan’s or the world’s influence that made him do bad things” or “they did it because they were spiritually weak”. Or, you misunderstood what we said about 1975, it’s your fault for going before god”.
  
  Now that the gentile times are being redefined “again” and all the ones who were alive in 1914 to see it are dead, I’m sure an appropriate explanation for their mistake will be packaged as “new light” and the rank and file will buy into it just like they do everything. They might have already done this, I seem to have let my watchtower subscription run out so I’m out of the new light loop.
  
  
  With any cult, it is imperative to redefine what the rest of the world sees as normal, right, or wrong so as to convince the cult followers that their leaders are always right. When they are proven wrong, they blame somebody else like the talking snake or the original sin bullshit.
  
  
  What we as JW kids saw as pressure, our parents saw as encouragement. Just like a pressure cooker encourages steam to blow out of the top of it or ignited solid fuel encourages a ten-ton rocket ship to go up in the air a little bit. Encouragement can be an awesome thing when used right. Pressure is just a figment of our imagination.
  
  
  I had two main reasons I got baptized at 19. I wanted to get married and have sex and it was also 1974.
  
  
  Stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid!
  
  
  Dave
  
  
  The last person to realize they are in a cult are the ones who are in a cult.
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  DFed, more positive or negative?

  by Sheepish in

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  just musing.... from the vantage point of being "out", it seems to me that being dfed would be really, really painful, but ultimately a good thing.

  (i was shunned by my family when i finally left though, so i know a little of what a dfed person goes through, although i didn't put myself through going back to meetings and being shunned) .

  i was publicly reproved, and was not allowed to answer in meetings, but i was not shunned.

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  *** Disfellowshipping is discipline not punishment***
  
  
  Ya, and castration stops masturbation. Who are you kidding beside yourself? Little kids and bad little puppies that piss on your pillow get disciplined, not adults.
  
  
  Disfellowshipping is just another way for the cult leaders to keep control over those who buy into their illusion of power.
  
  
  What’s sunning? A gift from god? It’s all about absolute obedience and mind control for and by those who do not deserve it. That is the only way cults can keep their people in line. Well…that and a big plastic bowl to mix Kool-Aid in.
  
  
  You want to see mind control in action? Just watch the astonished looks on the faces of everyone in a kingdom hall if someone asks a question outside of the controlled questions that you are given at a watchtower study. The whole congregation goes into a state of shock if just one person thinks for themselves and asks a non-controlled question that is not spoon fed to you by the JW cult leaders. Now that is a well-disciplined congregation, gasping on cue is essential!
  
  
  Frog,
  
  
  Maybe so. I just know I can only stand the company of the bungled and botched for so long and then I need to go beat my head against a wall. The older I get the less tolerant I am toward stupidity.
  
  
  Dave
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  DFed, more positive or negative?

  by Sheepish in

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  just musing.... from the vantage point of being "out", it seems to me that being dfed would be really, really painful, but ultimately a good thing.

  (i was shunned by my family when i finally left though, so i know a little of what a dfed person goes through, although i didn't put myself through going back to meetings and being shunned) .

  i was publicly reproved, and was not allowed to answer in meetings, but i was not shunned.

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  Being DF’ed is like the prison guards kicking you out of jail.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  Creation Ex-Nihilo - Did God Create Everything Out of Nothing?

  by Ianone in

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  or did god create everything out of pre-existent and eternal matter?

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  seven006

  Morons!
  
  
  The earth and all the elements of the universe are made out of Legos. Specify, the Star Wars 2 deluxe edition.
  
  
  Apostates don’t know shit about anything.
  
  
  Dave
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  South Park skewers Scientology

  by undercover in

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  anybody see south park last night(11-16-05)?

  scientology, along with tom cruise and john travolta got the typical south park treatment.. during one segment that had the leader of the 'church' explaining what they believed they ran a subtitle on the sreen that said, "this is what scientologists actually believe".

  i don't exactly know what they believe but if that was actually true, well, i thought mormons and jws were fucked up, but that shit takes the cake.. first they blasted mormons, now scientology.

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  Nathan,
  
  
  Thanks but I don’t know how much I did in any exposing. You just have to type in Jehovah’s witnesses and Scientologist into the same line on a search engine and you get volumes of info on the two together.
  
  
  Its no wonder the JW’s warn their brain dead blind followers to stay away from the Internet. I just blew me away to find out they actually formed a legal corporation with each other to share thoughts on mind control and legal loopholes to shut the mouths of those exposing their shit. The JW’s do their best to separate themselves from traditional religion but think nothing of hooking up with another cult or two when it comes to keeping their crap hidden.
  
  
  I’m sure what they learned in that little alliance has helped them go after guys like Quotes. I hope if it ever goes to trial their little relationship with the scientologist gets brought up and put into the court transcript. Then they will have to tell he truth about it and their hypocrisy can be posted on the Internet for all to read.
  
  
  dumbshits!
  
  
  Dave
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  South Park skewers Scientology

  by undercover in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  anybody see south park last night(11-16-05)?

  scientology, along with tom cruise and john travolta got the typical south park treatment.. during one segment that had the leader of the 'church' explaining what they believed they ran a subtitle on the sreen that said, "this is what scientologists actually believe".

  i don't exactly know what they believe but if that was actually true, well, i thought mormons and jws were fucked up, but that shit takes the cake.. first they blasted mormons, now scientology.

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  Ya, that’s what the Scientologist who can actually afford to get to the highest level believe. The rest of them are just teased with personality adjustment exercises to get them ready (brainwashed) enough to hear the “grand secret of life” bullshit after they paid thousands of dollars to reach the highest level.
  
  
  Once they get there and hear the big secret about the aliens and volcano they either feel like they have just been incredibly enlightened or they go the other way and realize they have spent thousands of dollars to prove to themselves how incredibly stupid they are. A religion started by a science fiction writer…who would of thunk it?
  
  
  You think ex-JW’s are pissed when they find out it was all bullshit? Talk to an ex-scientologist who spent all their money instead of just their time.
  
  
  This is why the JW’s and scientologist worked together to develop FIREPHIM to help each other develop legal grounds to sue ex-members.
  
  
  Here is a post I did about it a few years ago. All these people hate the truth about their cults getting out. Have you ever wondered why the JW’s never do an articles in their magazines and books about how bad the Scientologist are? This is why.
  
  
  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/26341/1.ashx
  
  
  
  
  
  I love South Park
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  Sad news - Our friend Larc

  by Angharad in

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  some of you may remember larc and zazuwitts, who used to post here regularly.. .

  i heard from zazu today that sadly larc passed away this morning.

  he died peacefully in his sleep of heart failure.

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  Damn.
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  The story of my life (part 15- Betrayed)

  by onacruse in

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  i'd recaptured the "community," (or, perhaps, better said: the "community" had recaptured me).

  my wife and i were invited to one party after another, old friends, and new friends.

  indeed, there was a considerable degree of subliminal suspicion about me; after all, i'd been dfd, and who knew what i really thought?

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  Heathen,
  Except for them finding out he had a gun, you are right on the money.
  
  
  Ain’t this a fun cult?
  
  
  Jgnat,
  Smooches back at’ch woman.
  
  
  
  
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  What one sentence could you say to a JW that would stick with them?

  by AlmostAtheist in

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  you've probably heard sentences that stuck with you.

  quotes, one-liners.

  you hear them and they make so much sense or touch you so personally at the time that they become part of you.

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  Do you really believe that the whole world is doomed because a talking snake, told a naked lady, to eat a piece of fruit?