i`ll list a few things and welcome any input, comments you may have .. 1.when adam & eve "sinned" disobeyed him, surely god could have handled it better than to condemn all future generations to disease and death ?.
2.his handling of satan who supposedly seduced eve to disobey god could also have been done a lot differently with a finality to it.. 3.i find little if anything in his dealings with the patriarchs that suggests a loving god protecting them.?.
4.taking on the nation of israel and leading them as his chosen people does not inspire confidence or trust as a god of love.. 5.throughout the hebrew scriptures / old testament his chosen people were constantly at war with other nations which of course would have meant many deaths of the israelite`s during these battles .and the grief that comes with family members in those times.
I would agree with you: If the Bible is true, then how could the God it describes be a God of Love? This "God" is truly just as immature as humanity is he not?
If one should believe that God is Love, how can they also believe the Bible is fully true? I believe the Bible is not true. The Bible is clearly a man-made book and reflects the values of the authors and or times of its authorship.
consider these excerpts from the bible and the publications:.
“no one has love greater than this, that someone should surrender his life in behalf of his friends” (joh 15:13).
“for hardly would anyone die for a righteous man; though perhaps for a good man someone may dare to die.
The whole idea of ransom is based on the idea of inherited sin. This is a doctrine I also fine faulty. Do you, parents, punish your grand children for something your children did? Well, by biblical standard, wouldn't you have to? That is not love! Love does not "keep account of the injury."
Two thousand years ago, the Mithraic mystery cults were prominent. How much of the writings in the Bible were influenced by them?
consider these excerpts from the bible and the publications:.
“no one has love greater than this, that someone should surrender his life in behalf of his friends” (joh 15:13).
“for hardly would anyone die for a righteous man; though perhaps for a good man someone may dare to die.
Just my 2 cents worth here:
What if Jesus death wasn't a sacrifice? What if Jesus allowed things to work out as they would on this planet because he knew that in order for the Comforter to come, he had to leave...? What if the whole purpose of His life was to reveal His Father and make a start to setting things straight?
I find the biblical accounts just too difficult to accept hook, line, and sinker.
As some may remember (from my first topic post), I believe God is love. With that in mind, how could a fair, loving, just God demand a brutal sacrifice from his blameless and innocent Son? No, the reason I do not believe the Bible accounts is because my litmus test is: Does the thing in question reveal God's Love? If it does not, I do not find it credible.
There is more to man's history than revealed in the biblical accounts! The Bible also lacks a good explanation of why we find ourselves as we are.
imagine you or a loved one have to go onto a ventilator and are given the choice of how it should be powered.
what are people picking?.
coal or oil powered energy.
In case anyone is wondering....
Alternative energy, e.g. solar photovoltaic panels, collect energy and store it to a battery bank. Thus you are actually relying on the battery bank's charge and re-charge. In addition, there is 'net-metering' which allows fall back onto the grid and also contributes to it when the electricity produced is either lacking or in surplus of the amount required.
even if you are young and heathy there are very good reasons to fear this disease and take drastic actions to avoid it individually, and halt it together as communities.
not only would it be traumatic as a society to lose so many old and unwell family members and friends, but survivors of the disease may suffer significant health problems in the future.
survivors of the first sars virus in 2003 have suffered significant lung problems.
"Canada has only detected 176 cases. They have thousands of times more, I guarantee it." - Simon
I've heard tell that the numbers are much higher because testing is refused to those who want it in certain countries. The strict guidelines to make them "eligible" cannot be met--even though they obviously have all the symptoms. Without the testing to confirm the cases, they don't exist, right? And any deaths will not thereby be attributed to CV-19. Thus the numbers stay artificially low.
i like to ride my bicycle to starbucks.
when weather permits i sit on the patio and write in the sunshine.a pesky crow i call edgar usually arrives to beg (or steal).that's all you need to know before we begin._____________________.
location exterior : the patio of starbuckstime: 11 amcast:lou : media / news analyst, religious fundamentalistterry: crow magnet and know-it-alledgar: spawn of satan________________.
"We're not a totalitarian regime;" -Elder
I disagree. The WTS forbids individual thinking, promotes censorship, requires "harmony", disallows criticism and tries to scrutinize and control every aspect of the lives of those who belong to the org.
That sounds very totalitarian to me.
assembly experiences.
brother so and so gets sick goes to hospital, refuses blood, dies; leaving widow and orphans.
then the experience continues--usual meals and such, then the bastards actually took the family door to door within a few days.
"Was there ever any gain in becoming a pawn in a religious cult?"
Do you now have any further understanding of how others might be so caught up? Without the experience yourself, it might be difficult to understand. This, admittedly, is small consolation especially if one was mistreated while there. A net gain? I doubt it.
Nonetheless, I do not consider it a complete loss. I did learn something, after all.
here's just a few random observations from tomorrow's wt study:.
jesus’ command to make disciples was not limited to christians living in the first century.
jesus concluded his instructions to his followers with the words: “i am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” (matt.
Hmmm... who to listen to...?
"Give freely...." -or- ask for financial support?
just been reading former long-time brooklyn bethelite tom cabeen's very encouraging article entitled "where is the body of christ?".
(can be found at http://divinetruth.homestead.com/bodyofchrist.pdf) .
in his article, tom says: "when john received the revelation around the end of the first century, there were hundreds of thousands of christians, even by conservative estimates.
If the number was that limited, why didn't Jesus mention it to His followers? According to the Bible, He did not specify who the "other sheep" were and if their fate were any different than what he held out to His apostles!! "One flock, one shepherd" actually implies same treatment, does it not?
it seems the news always has another report of a pedo stalking children or hurting them.
i know this has gone on forever but i read another report of an illegal alien with a history of abuse taking advantage of another poor child.. i just don’t understand why some people do this.
is there an actual brain abnormality?
Rattigan: The logical conclusion to your reasoning as you wrote it is:
A pedophile is someone that prefers children.
No one prefers children.
Therefore no pedophilia exists.
We know that is not a true statement.
And if it were that simple, by your own logic it would have to look more like this:
A pedophile is someone who prefers the easily manipulated
Children are easily manipulated
Therefore pedophiles prefer children
