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  Assaults Are a Bad Idea ( One exception?)

  by metatron in

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  assaulting jw's in the door to door work is very counter-productive.

  it encourages them to continue.

  believing that they are the true religion by reason of being persecuted.

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  If only met, if only this could be.

  Wait! It Can be.

  sKally
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  What was WTBTS giving as counsel to parents with disabled children in 60's?

  by sf in

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  my search and re-search is to know this issue fully and gain all insight as to what parents of disabled children were being told when it came to any further treatment and/ or prognosis; surgery, therapy, medication and such.. i will, of course, look at wt official site to see what is there.

  yet, i'm hoping i get everything i need, right here, with those that know what was being taught on this issue in the 60's and 70's up until now.. thank you.. skally.

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  Kind of, sort of no apologies.

  But thanks for contributing, kind of, sort of.

  {my apologies, no apologies}

  sKally
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  What was WTBTS giving as counsel to parents with disabled children in 60's?

  by sf in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  my search and re-search is to know this issue fully and gain all insight as to what parents of disabled children were being told when it came to any further treatment and/ or prognosis; surgery, therapy, medication and such.. i will, of course, look at wt official site to see what is there.

  yet, i'm hoping i get everything i need, right here, with those that know what was being taught on this issue in the 60's and 70's up until now.. thank you.. skally.

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  Thank you for sharing sacrebleu.

  Funny that practicing elders here have nothing to offer this thread, yet.

  Wonder what the delay could be.

  Keep it coming people.

  Thx, sKally
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  What was WTBTS giving as counsel to parents with disabled children in 60's?

  by sf in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  my search and re-search is to know this issue fully and gain all insight as to what parents of disabled children were being told when it came to any further treatment and/ or prognosis; surgery, therapy, medication and such.. i will, of course, look at wt official site to see what is there.

  yet, i'm hoping i get everything i need, right here, with those that know what was being taught on this issue in the 60's and 70's up until now.. thank you.. skally.

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  Another question then pops up:

  If, and I stress IF, there there WERE indeed something written, let alone unwriitten, within the organization that instructs and/ or highly suggests that a parent of disabled child basically "WAIT ON JEHOVAH..." and some scripture was used to back it up, would you proceed with further treatment, surgery, etc.?

  Now, what if the entire medical bill was absolutely free.

  Would you, as a jw parent, after hearing and seeing "WT INSTRUCTION" on the issue, proceed? Or would you still "wait..."?

  sKally
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  What was WTBTS giving as counsel to parents with disabled children in 60's?

  by sf in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  my search and re-search is to know this issue fully and gain all insight as to what parents of disabled children were being told when it came to any further treatment and/ or prognosis; surgery, therapy, medication and such.. i will, of course, look at wt official site to see what is there.

  yet, i'm hoping i get everything i need, right here, with those that know what was being taught on this issue in the 60's and 70's up until now.. thank you.. skally.

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  I want solid answers here people.

  You know who you are.

  What did/ does WT specifically instruct parents like AwakeandWatching and so many others?

  How did YOU, as overseers and elders address these issues with these parents?

  Incidently Awake, as the parent, did you authorize any treatment and/ or surgeries to be stopped due to "certain religious issues involved"? You may certainly decline answering.

  sKally
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  What was WTBTS giving as counsel to parents with disabled children in 60's?

  by sf in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  my search and re-search is to know this issue fully and gain all insight as to what parents of disabled children were being told when it came to any further treatment and/ or prognosis; surgery, therapy, medication and such.. i will, of course, look at wt official site to see what is there.

  yet, i'm hoping i get everything i need, right here, with those that know what was being taught on this issue in the 60's and 70's up until now.. thank you.. skally.

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  Are there any SPECIFIC CASES where WT gave any instructions to a parent/ parents of disabled or very ill child regarding medical procedures, such as future surgeries?

  SCENERIO:

  Your doctor tells you that they are now advanced enough to proceed further with beneficial treatments to enhance your childs life fully and help them to become as productive as humanly possible.

  What does the average jw parent then do, and or comtemplate?

  Do they consult with elders?

  Do they write the Society asking for any advice and guidance?

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  As P.O.'s, C.O.'s, elders and the like, what DID you tell parents in the "early years"? What do you tell them NOW?

  sKally
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  What was WTBTS giving as counsel to parents with disabled children in 60's?

  by sf in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  my search and re-search is to know this issue fully and gain all insight as to what parents of disabled children were being told when it came to any further treatment and/ or prognosis; surgery, therapy, medication and such.. i will, of course, look at wt official site to see what is there.

  yet, i'm hoping i get everything i need, right here, with those that know what was being taught on this issue in the 60's and 70's up until now.. thank you.. skally.

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  Good stuff people.

  Thanks. Please keep it coming.

  I'm still trying to find where WT quoted Textbook Of Medicine.

  Bets on me finding this quote I'm sure are nill.

  sKally
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  What was WTBTS giving as counsel to parents with disabled children in 60's?

  by sf in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  my search and re-search is to know this issue fully and gain all insight as to what parents of disabled children were being told when it came to any further treatment and/ or prognosis; surgery, therapy, medication and such.. i will, of course, look at wt official site to see what is there.

  yet, i'm hoping i get everything i need, right here, with those that know what was being taught on this issue in the 60's and 70's up until now.. thank you.. skally.

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  I simply cannot grasp how you active and double-lifed jws actually endorse and teach/ preach this crap.

  This article, and I can't wait to see what was being printed years earlier on this issue, is complete contradiction.

  LOL!! If "It" happens. I mean, come on Ted. Let's ANALize your brainwaves here, shall we brother...

  What Can Be Done if It Happens?
  
  Depending on the type of deformity, often much can be done. Medical researchers are daily developing new techniques to help cure deformities or to make it easier to bear up with them.[[ ah, always the martyrism, eh Ted?}} Mechanical arms and legs have enabled many born without such to have a more enjoyable life. {{according to you, there is nothing enjoyable about THIS LIFE HERE IN A WICKED WORLD}}
  
  There are institutions that are doing much to rehabilitate deformed children. Many child psychologists are proving that when specialized training is started early enough “infants of any intelligence level can develop and learn.” {{ are you serious?? "infants of intelligence level can also have all that they developed and learned...RAPED AWAY FROM THEM BY EVILDOERS TED. }}At times a parent may have no alternative but to have the child placed in an institution. Yet parental love is vital. “Love will do more than all the special training,” {{ he wasn't aware that WT Training trumps all other training}}stated the father of a child born with mongolism.
  
  Many children who were born hopelessly crippled have been assisted and now, as adults, live productive lives. Even some women without arms have raised their own children. Despite their handicaps, they are glad to be alive.

  GOLDEN CARROT OF THE WATCHTOWER ORGANIZATION:
  Will such children ever become sound? Yes, they will. Jesus demonstrated the “works of God” by healing a man born blind. This miracle by God’s power shows that God truly cares about the plight of those born deformed. These “works of God” will become even more manifest in the near future. God promises to remove this present selfish system and to bring in “new heavens and a new earth” wherein “righteousness is to dwell.”—2 Pet. 3:13; John 9:3.
  
  Just as Jesus, while on earth, healed blind eyes, deformed legs, a withered hand, so in the “new earth” eyes and ears closed from birth will be opened. Those with useless or missing limbs will joyfully regain their use! Every tear of sadness will pass away under the heavenly rule of Jesus. Even death will disappear!—Mark 3:1-5; Rev. 21:3, 4.
  
  This hope gives incentive to those who have deformed children. The mother of a 15-year-old retarded son who has been a deaf-mute from birth admitted: “There were times when my daughter and I felt like throwing up our hands and quitting, but knowing Jehovah God and realizing that in the future he will rid my son of this condition gave us something to look forward to. This is what kept us going.”
  Learn more from the Bible about this inspiring hope and how you and your family can enjoy it. Jehovah’s Witnesses will be glad to help you free of charge.
  
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  What was WTBTS giving as counsel to parents with disabled children in 60's?

  by sf in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  my search and re-search is to know this issue fully and gain all insight as to what parents of disabled children were being told when it came to any further treatment and/ or prognosis; surgery, therapy, medication and such.. i will, of course, look at wt official site to see what is there.

  yet, i'm hoping i get everything i need, right here, with those that know what was being taught on this issue in the 60's and 70's up until now.. thank you.. skally.

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  Okay, that is more like it.

  An elder even.

  Thank you. And yes. I am looking for much earlier material and documentation.

  I wonder though, and I will search myself, which Textbook of Medicine it is referring to. As is par that they use misrepresented material.

  So open, you don't recall anything much earlier? Plus, what do you THINK, not FEEL, about this portion contained therein?:

  However, the basic cause of deformed children is the disobedience of the first couple, Adam and Eve. Their sin against God causedthem to lose their perfection of mind and body and produce“defective” children. Each succeeding generation progressively drifted farther away from perfection. Therefore, even if there were no adverse technology, war, malnutrition or immoral behavior, there would still be deformed children by virtue of the fact that we are born of imperfect parents.

  sKally
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  LIGHT A CANDLE TODAY FOR LINDA & POST A PIC HERE

  by rebel8 in

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  is there something we can do for linda as a group?

  purplesofa sent a nice card from jwd.

  is there something else we can do to support her and trev right now?

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