Shaneliza

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  Goodbye

  by troubled in

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  after much soul searching, i've decided to abandon this board.

  i have learned a great deal, and what i've read has expanded my view.

  so as i leave, i'll not be sorry for the time i spent here.

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  Shaneliza

  don't
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  Heres a dub who knows how to milk the disaster

  by GWEEDO in

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  from the gc.

  desert rose knows what to do:.

  at our meeting last night, we had quite a few more in attendance than usual.

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  Shaneliza

  ITguy,

  You're too focused on the WTS and your hatred of what it does and what it's teachings are to get the point.

  First of all, I don't hate the WTS, I pity them.

  The fact that behind the scenes (in your mind) that there is more of an "agenda" isn't the point.

  Secondly, we will get nowhere in this discussion if you feel the need to be condescending, and to insult me. The householders for sure don't know about any 'agenda', so in that repect are the JW's being completely honest about why they are at the door? NO. That is what I have a BIG problem with.

  Some have expressed this is a "good opportunity for witnessing" Where is the harm in that?

  The harm is that there is an ulterior motive. JW's are MOTIVATED in the first place to knock on doors in order to get new members.

  Since these same ones really feel they have the answer for the future, and it is comforting to "lovers of righteousness", why wouldn't they feel that this was in fact a chance to share this hope with ones who may really need such a hope and answers at this time? Why is that so horrible?

  The reason is because the JW'S, who see this as an opportunity are also dealing with emotionally shattered people. They are taking advantage of the situation, and that is WRONG no matter how you slice it.

  You're damn right I disagree with these methods.

  I think you are the one who oesn't get it.
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  Heres a dub who knows how to milk the disaster

  by GWEEDO in

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  from the gc.

  desert rose knows what to do:.

  at our meeting last night, we had quite a few more in attendance than usual.

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  Shaneliza

  ITguy,

  How can you believe that this tragedy isn't a 'boon to recruit'? Given that the JW's believe that these are the 'last days', they are taught to go from door to door. The whole point of their ministry is to make more JW's.

  You can naively think that they are going door to door ONLY to give spiritual comfort, but you and I both know that is not the ENTIRE agenda.

  JW's are taught to 'spread the good news', that they are the only ones with the 'true religion'. And they are also taught to bring more people into the organization, because that is the only way potential JW's can be 'saved'.

  I'm sure you have read comments made by Dubs on other sites, they are rejoicing that this a 'good opportunity' for wittnessing. THAT IS WHAT I TAKE OFFENCE AT. Some things are wrong, no matter how it is sugar-coated, no matter what the reasons are behind it.
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  Heres a dub who knows how to milk the disaster

  by GWEEDO in

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  from the gc.

  desert rose knows what to do:.

  at our meeting last night, we had quite a few more in attendance than usual.

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  Shaneliza

  ITguy,

  They're 'doing what they know' only because they've been brainwashed to do so. The last thing the victim's families need right now is some salesman pounding at their door trying to recruit them. In a emotionally weakened state, you become vunerable to ANY kindness shown to you, even kindness from strangers with their own agenda. Is this what the people of NYC need right now?

  If the Dubs really want to do some good, donate blood, money, food, and volunteer to assist in anyway they can.
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  Heres a dub who knows how to milk the disaster

  by GWEEDO in

  1. jw
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  from the gc.

  desert rose knows what to do:.

  at our meeting last night, we had quite a few more in attendance than usual.

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  Shaneliza

  Dubs' specialty is finding a persons vunerable spot and then exploiting it. The tragedy in NYC is going to leave a great many people emotionally drained, and they'll be asking themselves how this could have happened.

  Enter the JW's with their message of 'everlasting life in paradise'. From the BORG standpoint, this is a tragedy that must be taken advantage of. You can bet that all of their next publications will deal with the attack on the WTC and Pentagon.

  Like there isn't enough paper littering the streets of NYC already.
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  TURN ON CNN: PLANE HIT WORLD TRADE CTR BLDG!!!

  by MadApostate in

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  Shaneliza

  Moxy,
  I will not make fun of the JW's apocalyptic views....I am sickend by how some of them are rejoicing in this....

  Shannon
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  I got invited to a party, should i go?

  by jurs in

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  hello guys,.

  i must say that being labeled an apostate has made my life quite interesting.

  i'm shunned every day at cosmetology school and the town i live in is small and i run into jw's all the time.

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  Hi Jurs,

  It depends on how gutsy you are...if you feel you can handle it, go and hold your head high. On the other hand, if you feel it would be too awkward for you to sit there, then save yourself the aggrevation and politely decline the invitation. The evil side of me wishes I could go with you..I'd stare them all down and kill 'em with kindness.

  Shannon
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  Where are we from.....

  by BobsGirl in

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  i know that this has been done before, but i am new to the board and i would like to get an idea of where everyone is located.

  as an aside .... plesantries or animosities, moderators or no, i am grateful to have this board.

  bobsgirl

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  Shaneliza

  Southern Ontario, Canada.
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  This history of the watchtower (in comic verse)

  by Naeblis in

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  i wrote this about 4-5 years ago as i was pulling myself out of the jw's.

  it's not great but it has it's moments and it makes me smile.

  enjoy :).

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  Shaneliza

  Awesome Naeblis !!!!!
  You have a talent....I'm saving your poem, hope you don't mind.
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  Eulogy for My Father

  by Farkel in

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  on tuesday, august 4, 2001 at 3:42.a.m.

  mst, duane floyd checketts, 77 died in his sleep due to complications from pneumonia.

  he is survived by his wife bette and two children, douglas checketts, patty smith, and 8 grandchildren.. duane, who was fondly called duke by everyone who knew him was born in farmington, utah on march 8, 1924. his father floyd, was one of 10 children raised in a tiny house built by his own mormon father who immigrated in the early 1860's from birmingham, england.

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  Shaneliza

  I am sorry for your loss. Your tribute to your dad was beautiful. You have touched my heart today.

  Shannon M.