Mike to answer your question l don't think much of it . I see no point in any group trying to work these things out. You would think that they would learn from all the other failed guesses .
Are these American Evangelicals ?
Jan
what do you guys think of the evangelicals theory about babylon the great and the last pope...just starting this big book out of curiosity...like 500 pages...it seems there is a lot of different thinking from the borg.
Mike to answer your question l don't think much of it . I see no point in any group trying to work these things out. You would think that they would learn from all the other failed guesses .
Are these American Evangelicals ?
Jan
why do you think many jws are hostile and rude?
or is that just my imagination?.
mark jones writes: the vast majority of jehovah’s witnesses are nice people.
I wouldn't label myself " a born again " Christian because it seems to be an American label and unfortunately tends to conjure up a picture of religious nutters .
I am a Christian ( have l ever mentioned that? ) . I don't feel angry , don't like everyone but we aren't told to , just love them , and don't feel the need to be defensive. As Vanderhoven said most , for want of a better word , ordinary Christians are pretty happy people . We should be .
I often hear the saying " hate the sin but love the sinner "
I think that JWs are taught to hate and ignore persistent sinners because that label is often given to people who have rejected the Org . Leaders are obviously worried that the light will spread infecting others. So divide and conquer seems to be the strategy.
Jan
sometimes jws wonder if the wt/jw is not the truth, 'then where else are we to go?
' i say 'why not atheistic/scientific philosophical naturalism and why not a secular philosophy which teaches a way of life?
' what do you folks say?.
I haven't read through all the original posts and this was probably mentioned.
The correct , Biblical question is to WHOM would we go ?
The WT changed it to stress their position of being Jehovah's only mouthpiece on earth.
Jan
the sheeple have always been indoctrinated to think of themselves as witnesses for jehovah.. but the 8m followers of the jw governing body are now told a biblical truth - that they are witnesses for jesus!.
december 2022 study watchtower, p.21, par.
17 = "one of the primary reasons why satan wages war against god’s people is that they “have the work of bearing witness concerning jesus.” (rev.
Rattigan , I'm not sure how JWs preach Jesus . I rarely hear Witnesses mention Him . It's Jehovah this and Jehovah that .
Punk I'm sure that you know that the Orgs version of the Trinity is nothing like Christendom's Trinity.
We don't believe that Jesus was Michael so a huge difference. If a Witness could actually explain where that comes from l would be interested to find out .
Jan
the sheeple have always been indoctrinated to think of themselves as witnesses for jehovah.. but the 8m followers of the jw governing body are now told a biblical truth - that they are witnesses for jesus!.
december 2022 study watchtower, p.21, par.
17 = "one of the primary reasons why satan wages war against god’s people is that they “have the work of bearing witness concerning jesus.” (rev.
The word Jehovah does not appear in the New Testament .
The WT inserted it to support their teaching .
The Churches of Christendom preach the Trinity so equating Jesus with Jehovah.
Jan
joseph and mary were not in a spiritually adulterous relationship with the roman authorities, the "legs of iron".
joseph and mary were not perfect.
the governing body of the modern-day organization of jehovah's witnesses is not perfect.
Joao , Punk's correct . I asked direct questions requiring direct answers and didn't get them. You won't either .
Anna does seem very very confused on where she stands regarding the Org.
Punk may well be right about her needing help .
Anna if you read this please seek out someone, not a JW , who you can talk to about your issues . Particularly the abuse that you mentioned.
Jan
it's been years since i posted here.
my jw mother died july 5th.
it was quite honestly not that emotional for me.
Hi Noni , my Condolences on the loss of your Mom .
I'm British and , l suppose , a Royalist. I too feel very sad about the Queen's death . She was a constant in all our lives, the one person always " there " . I'm 66 and my own Mum died a few years ago .
Maybe seeing and hearing how loved Her Maj was by her children makes you sad that you didn't have that with your Mom .
It's probably had that effect on anyone whose relationship with a parent wasn't as they would have liked . You aren't on your own in that respect.
Jan
joseph and mary were not in a spiritually adulterous relationship with the roman authorities, the "legs of iron".
joseph and mary were not perfect.
the governing body of the modern-day organization of jehovah's witnesses is not perfect.
Anna as often happens in discussions with JWs you are ignoring the pointed questions. The ones about the false prophecies, which make them false prophets according to God's word .
The ones about encouraging people to sell houses and cars and donate the money to the preaching work pre '75 .
The ones about non of that money being returned when Armageddon didn't happen .
Who says that Jehovah gave His name to the Org ? Well they do .
I could CLAIM that Jehovah has made me His representative on earth and take hundreds of thousands of pounds off people . It wouldn't make it fact
Jan
i am still on my holiday around the uk and currently am in the midlands if anyone is around i’d love to catch up - hope you are all well xx.
Punky l am delighted to agree to disagree in a non disagreeable manner with your disagreement. Sounds very grown up and reasonable and does appear to be agreeable to you .
Actually Tamuff is ok . You very rarely hear of any incidents especially not stabbings. There are enough Tamworth social media sites to ensure that stuff gets round .
The big hoo ha of late has been some travellers around the area.
You are still very welcome to attend our 5pm sung Evensong service . If you came then l think that you would agree that it's most agreeable
Agreeably yours Jan
My Granddaughter once told JWs at her door that the family were devil worshippers. Funnily enough they never had another call .
Jan