for those of you who still respect the bible, which translation/s are you using now?
why?.
Slim l understand that there are people who support the idea of the Divine name in the New Testament l still believe that there is no proof of it . At best it's conjecture .
For all the supporters of that theory there are probably as many detractors who are equally qualified on the subject.
So l feel that until it's proven it's wrong of the WT particular to put the word Jehovah into the texts .
Jan
note this report covers cases going back to 1949, they uncovered 400. if j.w's in the u.k did a similar, thorough trawl of all congregation records going back that far, let's pretend they haven't destroyed most of them, we know they have, but just pretend they are all available, how many cases of abuse would they uncover ?
in a much smaller org ?.
maybe the file destruction that has gone on was to protect the org.
Happy Dad you may want to change that pseudonym 🤣.
I am a member of the CofE and l can confirm that rigorous precautions have been put in place to help prevent this kind of thing happening.
I am a 66yr old female member of my specific church's PCC ( parochial church council) . This is the group who make decisions about stuff that goes on and is responsible for upkeep of the building.
I have to be DBS ( disclosure and barring service ) checked. This only because l am.on the PCC . I have no contact directly with children or vulnerable adults . Any other church member who , in whatever role , does come into contact with those groups has to be DBS checked as well .
Each church has a safeguarding officer who is to be informed about any suspicion of wrong doing so that records can be kept and appropriate people informed .
Abuse of any kind , including spousal abuse , is taken very seriously.
Jan
for those of you who still respect the bible, which translation/s are you using now?
why?.
Fisherman ' it is reasonable to assume " , have you never heard the saying that to assume makes an ass out of you and me ?
There is zero evidence that the Divine name was in the NT .
Jan
so a few years i watched a lecture series by a man named dr. micheal heiser called the two powers in heaven, jesus in the old testament.
funny thing was it wasn't even very evangelical in nature, so i turned off my religious binders and just watched it like a regular person.
it turns out that the new testament is a hinge point in the bible.
Truth , sorry if l misunderstood your post . You are very welcome in the Anglican church. Jesus's teachings about practical Christianity are very much to the fore.
Disclaimer . Other denominations are also readily available.
Jan
for those of you who still respect the bible, which translation/s are you using now?
why?.
I use the NIV as well. It's our " pew Bible " as in the one available for folk to use during services to follow the readings if they wish to .
Jan
so a few years i watched a lecture series by a man named dr. micheal heiser called the two powers in heaven, jesus in the old testament.
funny thing was it wasn't even very evangelical in nature, so i turned off my religious binders and just watched it like a regular person.
it turns out that the new testament is a hinge point in the bible.
Truth I'm really not sure about that. Loving your neighbour as yourself is the second most important command and that comes from Jesus .
1 John says
" we know that we have passed from death to life because we love each other ........ dear children let us not love with words or speech but with actions and truth. ......
This is how we know that we belong to the truth and how we set out hearts at rest in His presence. "
So we can't be horrible to people and get a free pass by just saying the right thing.
As to the Trinity , yes some of the Early Church Fathers believed that when OT people said that they had seen God because the Bible says that no one has seen the Father then they must have seen God the Son .
One of them wrote a whole article on this called something like " A Conversation with Trypho a Jew . " in which he has a conversation with the said ( imaginary ) Trypho about the sightings of God in the OT .
Jan
so, we had this meeting with 3 elders ( larry, moe and curly) my uncle who is the lawyer sat in the room and stayed quiet, and fact for 40 minutes we let them talk.
we would just sit there.
they went into along winded monolog about how the world is in bad shape and getting worst.
Rattigan what questions should he have asked ?
Jan
So what do you really think Punky ? 🤣🤣no need to sugar coat among friends.
Jan
These measures were only implemented a few days ago , no where near enough time to see how effective they may or may not be.
Yes it could be a disaster ( Darling ) but any economic changes need time to settle in .
If this were a Labour government implementing some controversial measures then Labour supporters would be saying ' give it time ' .
For me the clue is in the title Opposition Party . Whichever party is in power and even if they are doing a good job ( ? !!) then the Opposition will oppose , it's their job . So l find it very difficult to take any ranting seriously, it's what they are there to do .
Time will tell
Jan
what do you guys think of the evangelicals theory about babylon the great and the last pope...just starting this big book out of curiosity...like 500 pages...it seems there is a lot of different thinking from the borg.
Mike to answer your question l don't think much of it . I see no point in any group trying to work these things out. You would think that they would learn from all the other failed guesses .
Are these American Evangelicals ?
Jan
