i’ve been visiting this site for quite a long time, although i rarely posted.
i would like to thank simon and all the participants, for the valuable information and support that is available here, for anyone searching about the jw organization.. just a brief introduction of myself: i live in europe (english is not my native language, so please bear with any mistakes i make).
i was born in a jw family and i’m still in the organization, but i’ve been “on the fence” about leaving the organization for quite a long time.
Hi New Light, your English is excellent.
I've never been a JW but have learned a lot from this site . I started researching the WT after having had some doorstep conversations during which l felt that much of what was preached was dodgy .
Do some independent research, not just read JW approved stuff . The fact that they say that the Bible can only be understood through their teachings is in itself suspicious.
Jan
admittedly it 90% crap over there but still they are up to 80k in subscribers.
over here it's the same half dozen or so that posts something, including myself.
why is that?.
I miss Cofty , we didn't agree on much but he was always polite and factual
Jan
i have just started to steep the mincemeat for my mince pies in dark rum .
christmas is a big deal in my family and circle of friends.
however among ex jws it's a bit different or so l understand.
Diogenesister you sing your heart out .
Jan
i have just started to steep the mincemeat for my mince pies in dark rum .
christmas is a big deal in my family and circle of friends.
however among ex jws it's a bit different or so l understand.
Linda in any country people , not just men ( you say guys and I'm not sure what you mean by that ) eat , drink and are merry with no thought as to what Christmas celebrates - the coming of the Saviour into the world.
The amount of Christians in any country is probably quite small , l don't mean people who tick Christian on a hospital admission form .
I do go to Christmas church services and we hear , l have myself read , the Christmas story from Scripture . We sing carols, which are just Christmas hymns .
There are hymns specifically for Easter , Harvest Festival etc
We thank God for sending His Son into the world to be our Saviour.
Jan
i have just started to steep the mincemeat for my mince pies in dark rum .
christmas is a big deal in my family and circle of friends.
however among ex jws it's a bit different or so l understand.
Nathan , that is what l was wondering about . It appears that some people who joined the WT as adults then left don't have hang ups about celebrating Christmas.
However probably most who were bought up as Witnesses would still feel guilty about it even after leaving the Org.
That's obviously a generalisation but l would think is pretty accurate.
Jan
i have just started to steep the mincemeat for my mince pies in dark rum .
christmas is a big deal in my family and circle of friends.
however among ex jws it's a bit different or so l understand.
I see your point Nathan but certainly in the West come December ( or even earlier) Christmas is everywhere. TV , shops , houses decorated etc . You can't even stay at home and escape it .
Jan
i have just started to steep the mincemeat for my mince pies in dark rum .
christmas is a big deal in my family and circle of friends.
however among ex jws it's a bit different or so l understand.
i have just started to steep the mincemeat for my mince pies in dark rum .
christmas is a big deal in my family and circle of friends.
however among ex jws it's a bit different or so l understand.
Sloppy , to me this is what Christmas is all about
. Pentatonix - Joy to the World (Official Video)
i have just started to steep the mincemeat for my mince pies in dark rum .
christmas is a big deal in my family and circle of friends.
however among ex jws it's a bit different or so l understand.
I have just started to steep the mincemeat for my mince pies in dark rum .
Christmas is a big deal in my family and circle of friends. However among ex JWs it's a bit different or so l understand. Some fully embrace the celebrations others don't.
Are people comfortable explaining their attitude to Christmas? Have you managed to shake off the JW teaching or do you still feel guilty about celebrating the Festive Season ? Or maybe you are just a Scrooge .
I get that some of the traditions are of pagan origin and Jesus wasn't actually born on Dec 25th so JW apologists don't need to tell me these things .
I an curious about you folk who have escaped the Org.
Jan
first of all, hi, i go by blotty on this website :) i am someone who has a passion for the bible and like to get a as balanced view as i can from the trinitarian and the jw (or unitarian) side - even though i come off as leaning towards one or the other at times, in my opinion they both have merits in certain cases..if this is in the wrong section i apologise - this is just something i found interesting.iv seen online a lot that say the watchtower and tract society "invented" the link between proverbs 8:22 - 30 and jesus (the word).
yet interestingly some "mainstream" "trinitarian- aimed" translations are cross referencing the following:source:https://www.biblegateway.comprov 8:22 cr rev 3:14niv, gnt,esv, nasb, nasb1995, nasbre, cevprov 8:30 cr john 1:1,2 esv nasbprov 8:30 cr john 1:3esvnasb1995nasb(this list is by no means complete)if this is simply wisdom, why is it referenced with jesus (or the word)?.
I'm going slightly off piste here. I believe that the Watchtower identity Jesus with Michael the Arch Angel . This appears to be part of their denial of the Trinity.
I see no evidence for this in the Bible so where does this come from?
Jan
