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  New Zealand - JWs head to court on Abuse in Care Inquiry - RNZ news story

  by EasyPrompt in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/jehovahs-witnesses-head-to-court-on-abuse-in-care-inquiry-victims-feel-a-kick-in-the-guts/hwjsnshi5vfv7ghjztr63goseu/.

  "by bill hickman of rnz.

  the new zealand branch of the jehovah’s witnesses is going to court in an attempt to have the church made exempt from the abuse in care inquiry today.. in the high court at wellington, lawyers for the church are seeking a declaration that the church is not responsible for the care of children or vulnerable people in new zealand.. abuse survivor advocate and former church elder shayne mechen said the church was trying to use a technicality to side-step its inclusion in the inquiry.. .

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  jhine

  I would like to contrast that with the Church of England. All the rules are national so apply to every parish church. My parish church does not run a school or orphanage or even a Sunday School where children go into a separate room .

  Many of us are still required to be DBS checked including any members of the Parochial Church Council if we have any contact with children or vulnerable adults or not .

  We do run something called The Ark on Thursday morning and Baby Ark on Monday afternoon. For preschool children and parents/ grandparents/ childminders who stay with the children . The volunteers at both have to be DBS checked even though they have no direct physical contact with the children.

  During the morning family service there is a children's table where littluns sit with volunteers and do crafts related to the sermon, colouring, sticking etc , in full view of their responsible adults. They love parading around the church at the end and to show off their work.

  Those volunteers need to be DBS checked .

  Each church has a designated Safeguarding Officer .

  Jan from Tam
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  Pope & The Archbishop of Canterbury - Joint Announcement

  by BoogerMan in

  1. social
  2. humour

  "from november 1st 2023, all congregants of the faith must tick a box every month to prove they are still christians.".

  can you imagine the org's reaction if this took place?

  they would be ticked off!

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  jhine

  Thanks BoogerMan , l wasn't aware of the JW box ticking requirement. That in itself sounds like a windup. Truth and fiction eh ?

  Jan from Tam
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  Pope & The Archbishop of Canterbury - Joint Announcement

  by BoogerMan in

  1. social
  2. humour

  "from november 1st 2023, all congregants of the faith must tick a box every month to prove they are still christians.".

  can you imagine the org's reaction if this took place?

  they would be ticked off!

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  jhine

  Sorry, what ? This is a micky take isn't it?

  Jan from Tam
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  New Zealand - JWs head to court on Abuse in Care Inquiry - RNZ news story

  by EasyPrompt in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/jehovahs-witnesses-head-to-court-on-abuse-in-care-inquiry-victims-feel-a-kick-in-the-guts/hwjsnshi5vfv7ghjztr63goseu/.

  "by bill hickman of rnz.

  the new zealand branch of the jehovah’s witnesses is going to court in an attempt to have the church made exempt from the abuse in care inquiry today.. in the high court at wellington, lawyers for the church are seeking a declaration that the church is not responsible for the care of children or vulnerable people in new zealand.. abuse survivor advocate and former church elder shayne mechen said the church was trying to use a technicality to side-step its inclusion in the inquiry.. .

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  I cannot believe what l have just read .

  Jan from Tam
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  The org: Coal calling the kettle black! #2

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "the generally accepted definition of propaganda is this: an organization for the propagation of a doctrine or system, the purpose of which is to cause the membership of the system or organization to increase or enlarge.

  religious organizations engage in propaganda, because each system of religion tries to increase its membership.

  the work of jehovah’s witnesses for his kingdom is entirely a different matter.

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  So the door to door work and handing out leaflets from carts isn't an effort to increase his organisation or propagate his doctrines then . Just for fun obviously, because what else would you rather be doing?

  Jan from Tam
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  The org: Coal calling the kettle black!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  "the greatest religious system that exists on earth, or ever did exist on earth, is the roman catholic hierarchy, controlled by a few men and under which have been brought millions of people of honest desires.

  satan has used the roman catholic hierarchy (g.b.

  ) to blind millions of people.

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  Wow .

  Jan from Tam
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  Bible question

  by BoogerMan in

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  when boaz lost his wife, did he become ruthless?.

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  Groan 🙄🤣.

  Jan from Tam
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  When did you see realise James Lloyd Evans was a wrongun?

  by usualusername1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember him on this site when he was called cedars and had jw survey.. straightaway i noticed he could not accept suggestions.. the time i knew he was dangerous was when his group aawa added people to their fb group without their permission and were outed.. he refused to close the fb page (whilst celebrating 1300 members joining in a few days).

  one member complained and was subsequently disfellowshipped, which could easily have been avoided.. three week's after launching, the fb page was closed down.

  from that moment i knew james lloyd evans was dangerous.. when did you realise he not good?.

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  Thanks Punky .

  Jan from Tam
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  When did you see realise James Lloyd Evans was a wrongun?

  by usualusername1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember him on this site when he was called cedars and had jw survey.. straightaway i noticed he could not accept suggestions.. the time i knew he was dangerous was when his group aawa added people to their fb group without their permission and were outed.. he refused to close the fb page (whilst celebrating 1300 members joining in a few days).

  one member complained and was subsequently disfellowshipped, which could easily have been avoided.. three week's after launching, the fb page was closed down.

  from that moment i knew james lloyd evans was dangerous.. when did you realise he not good?.

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  jhine

  Excuse my ignorance but what is AAWA ?

  Jan from Tam
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  A registered sex-offender became a ministerial servant; he’s now in prison for assaulting child

  by Tahoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/a-registered-sex-offender-became-a-ministerial-servant-for-jehovah-s-witnesses-in-springfield-he-s-now-in-prison-for-assaulting-child/ar-aa1h4vjg.

  a level 3 sex offender who moved to springfield and secured a role with the jehovah’s witnesses religious organization is now in prison.

  jay aaron smith, 62, was sentenced recently in hampden superior court to 15 years in prison for several counts of indecent assault and battery on a child.

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  jhine

  In the Church of England there are lots of rolls , paid and volunteer, that require a DBS check . DBS is the Disclosure and Disbarring Service.

  Anyone on the Parochial Church Council has to be checked, the Church Warden and Lay Readers, Vicar and lots of other rolls necessitate a check .

  Some people also need to do safeguarding courses . I have had to pass three courses in my roll as Parish DBS Checker.

  How does the Watchtower, here in the UK at least, get away with not taking the same precautions?

  Jan from Tam