PioneerSchmioneer and Peaceful Pete all good points .
Jan from Tam
the bible does not say that god does not want to lie, but that he cannot lie or it is impossible for god to lie.
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so, if god cannot lie, for what purpose and why did he create creatures (satan, demons, humans) who can lie?.
PioneerSchmioneer and Peaceful Pete all good points .
Jan from Tam
the bible does not say that god does not want to lie, but that he cannot lie or it is impossible for god to lie.
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so, if god cannot lie, for what purpose and why did he create creatures (satan, demons, humans) who can lie?.
There are two deaths.
Rev 2: 11 " Whoever has ears , let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches . The one who is victorious will not be hurt at all by the second death. "
Rev 20 : 6 Blessed are they who share in the in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them , but they will be priests of God and Christ and will reign with him for a thousand years "
Rev 20 ;14 " Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire . The lake of fire is the second death. Anyone whose name was not found in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire "
So Adam and Eve subjected themselves to the second death.
Jan from Tam
the bible does not say that god does not want to lie, but that he cannot lie or it is impossible for god to lie.
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so, if god cannot lie, for what purpose and why did he create creatures (satan, demons, humans) who can lie?.
Ok so my technical ability isn't up to my ability to state the bleed'n' obvious. I hope that l have shared an article on this subject which l have found useful.
Jan from Tam
the bible does not say that god does not want to lie, but that he cannot lie or it is impossible for god to lie.
.
so, if god cannot lie, for what purpose and why did he create creatures (satan, demons, humans) who can lie?.
the bible does not say that god does not want to lie, but that he cannot lie or it is impossible for god to lie.
.
so, if god cannot lie, for what purpose and why did he create creatures (satan, demons, humans) who can lie?.
Nicolaou l don't think that a doctor would say " your Mother will not die " because he / she would know differently.
Or they would mean that she wouldn't die from that particular thing .
Doctors usually say : your Mother can have many more years ahead of her " or something like .
Your pretend conversation is contrived to support the point that you want to make
Jan from Tam
i’ve decided to disassociate from the jw organisation.
i cannot be part of a community that blatantly rejects the sacrifice of jesus in that demonic memorial ritual.
amazing what information you find when you start researching.. i’m writing my letter and posting it to the kingdom hall this morning.
1Corinthians : 5 talks about how to deal with sinful Christians. However it means idolaters, adulterers, drunkards etc . People who habitually behave in such ways , not someone who slips and has a couple of sherrys too many then repents . Or someone who is tempted into a one night stand and repents .
The WT goes way beyond Biblical teaching.
Jan from Tam
i’ve decided to disassociate from the jw organisation.
i cannot be part of a community that blatantly rejects the sacrifice of jesus in that demonic memorial ritual.
amazing what information you find when you start researching.. i’m writing my letter and posting it to the kingdom hall this morning.
DoC l didn't mean to give Teddnzo grief . I was just making the point that shunning is working. So many people stay in because of the fear of being shunned.
Jan from Tam
the bible does not say that god does not want to lie, but that he cannot lie or it is impossible for god to lie.
.
so, if god cannot lie, for what purpose and why did he create creatures (satan, demons, humans) who can lie?.
God created perfect. However he gave mankind free will and ' sin ' came into the world.
I think of it like someone who had devised a perfect computer programme and a jealous rival snook a bug in .
Not a perfect analogy but it helps me
Jan from Tam
i’ve decided to disassociate from the jw organisation.
i cannot be part of a community that blatantly rejects the sacrifice of jesus in that demonic memorial ritual.
amazing what information you find when you start researching.. i’m writing my letter and posting it to the kingdom hall this morning.
Teddnzo , but those same good friends would drop you like a stone if you dissasociated. Is that true friendship. ? Yes l know that they do it out of ' love " but they won't care how much it hurts you or how your life goes after that. In fact if your life takes a downward turn it will be your own fault for leaving. Not because your friends are now ignoring you .
So it's working you stay in out of fear.
Jan from Tam
the wt teaches that the memorial ( communion) should only be celebrated yearly and only the anointed can partake of the bread and wine .
is that right ?
i don't think so ..
Not former l totally agree, everything about Watchtower teaching is about obedience and submission.
Jan from Tam