Posts by jhine

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Further Crisis looming for JW org re Safeguarding ?

by Phizzy in

if you substitute j.w org for c of e this really hits home : (from bbc news site) :.

the church of england risks further crisis if it fails to adopt a sweeping new independent system to keep people safe, the former head of a national inquiry into child sexual abuse has said.

(prof. alexis jay).. "i think it's absolutely necessary because church safeguarding as it stands falls below the standards of secular organisations, and i do not think that can continue when it has also led to such serious weaknesses," she told the bbc..

jhine

Earnest, it may be that different Diocese do things a bit differently, however from the top down it has been made clear that safeguarding needs to be taken seriously.

Actually all this started well before the recent scandal . For many years DBS checks have been in place for anyone who may have access to children or vulnerable adults. Also those people have been required to take safeguarding courses which have to be kept up-to-date.

Last week our Vicaress Claire had to go on a safeguarding course dealing with domestic abuse. Not just for physical violence but mental abuse , which can be harder to spot . She described it as harrowing.

I don't know why the Synod voted how they did yesterday but l would like to know the reasons before commenting.

We ain't perfect , but I'm not sure that any measures can be implemented to stop abuse from ever happening. We are trying and obviously our response to victims needed to change drastically .

Jan from Tam

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Further Crisis looming for JW org re Safeguarding ?

by Phizzy in

if you substitute j.w org for c of e this really hits home : (from bbc news site) :.

the church of england risks further crisis if it fails to adopt a sweeping new independent system to keep people safe, the former head of a national inquiry into child sexual abuse has said.

(prof. alexis jay).. "i think it's absolutely necessary because church safeguarding as it stands falls below the standards of secular organisations, and i do not think that can continue when it has also led to such serious weaknesses," she told the bbc..

jhine

I would be very interested to find out what other measures Prof Jay thinks need to be implemented.

Jan from Tam

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Further Crisis looming for JW org re Safeguarding ?

by Phizzy in

if you substitute j.w org for c of e this really hits home : (from bbc news site) :.

the church of england risks further crisis if it fails to adopt a sweeping new independent system to keep people safe, the former head of a national inquiry into child sexual abuse has said.

(prof. alexis jay).. "i think it's absolutely necessary because church safeguarding as it stands falls below the standards of secular organisations, and i do not think that can continue when it has also led to such serious weaknesses," she told the bbc..

jhine

Mmmm as a member of the CofE l know that in recent years safeguarding has been taken very seriously.

We are all being made aware of abuse in all forms - sexual, financial, emotional. Domestic violence and elder abuse.

All churches have safeguarding officers and all members are encouraged to report anything that makes them feel uncomfortable .

As a member of the PCC l have had to have specific training about awareness of something being " not right "

There have been failures and in some cases even maybe a JW type of attitude of not bringing the church into disrepute . However lessons have been learnt

Jan from Tam

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Miscarriage myths amongst JW

by Anony Mous in

so i am having these discussions about children etc and there are witness ties and family history in these discussions.

i got the feeling having this discussion that they seemed to imply somehow it was ‘the parent’s fault’ for having a miscarriage.

whether it was domestic violence, or the mother did something wrong themselves.

jhine

Kerry , that seems a very sweeping statement. I think that society in general now understands that there are medical reasons for miscarriages. Also my religious friends, male and female , are not misogynistic. I feel sad that your experience with religion has given you such a negative impression.

Jan from Tam

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How to spot wolves in sheep's clothing!

by BoogerMan in

w64 11/1 pp.

645-646 wolves in sheep’s covering - "can you detect them?

how can you avoid becoming their prey?....to his first-century disciples jesus sounded a warning that applies to us today with even greater force: “look out that you are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘i am he [anointed],’ and, ‘the due time has approached.’ do not go after them.” (luke 21:8) .

jhine

Hi Blondie , l can't say that l fully understand how ex JWs feel as l haven't walked in their shoes .

I get what you are saying, l just wondered if Boogerman had the JWs in mind in particular.

Jan from Tam

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Black people will be white in the new system

by bluecanary in

one of the more ridiculous and offensive things the wts has ever taught and that is saying a lot.. i know i saw a link to this article sometime in the last two weeks but i've lost it!

can anyone direct me to this article?.

jhine

Thank you Blondie .

Jan from Tam

10

How to spot wolves in sheep's clothing!

by BoogerMan in

w64 11/1 pp.

645-646 wolves in sheep’s covering - "can you detect them?

how can you avoid becoming their prey?....to his first-century disciples jesus sounded a warning that applies to us today with even greater force: “look out that you are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘i am he [anointed],’ and, ‘the due time has approached.’ do not go after them.” (luke 21:8) .

jhine

So who do you have in mind ?

Jan from Tam

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Black people will be white in the new system

by bluecanary in

one of the more ridiculous and offensive things the wts has ever taught and that is saying a lot.. i know i saw a link to this article sometime in the last two weeks but i've lost it!

can anyone direct me to this article?.

jhine

Firstly wow , how many current Witnesses know about this?

Why were the white people in the pictures all Americans? Is that Britishist or Australianist? What about Canadians , Germans etc ?

They certainly were a prejudiced lot .

( Tongue firmly in cheek )

Jan from Tam

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Child abuse calculations

by Anony Mous in

there are no real numbers for jws but they are a relatively small group.

compared to the number of catholics at least.. the australian commission gathered more than 5000 cases with over 1000 perpetrators that went completely unreported for the jws.

likewise they did the same for catholics and collected just under 4800 cases with 1880 perpetrators.

jhine

18

Child abuse calculations

by Anony Mous in

there are no real numbers for jws but they are a relatively small group.

compared to the number of catholics at least.. the australian commission gathered more than 5000 cases with over 1000 perpetrators that went completely unreported for the jws.

likewise they did the same for catholics and collected just under 4800 cases with 1880 perpetrators.

jhine

Phizzy you are spot on about churches in UK having Safeguarding Programmes and Safeguarding Officers.

Anyone who is in any kind of leadership role is required to do Safeguarding courses. As a member of the PCC , the people who take care of practical matters in the church , l have had to do two Safeguarding courses .

There is a Safeguarding Officer and all church members are encouraged to report anything that they feel is not " right" .

Jan from Tam