cedars , given the tone of your last post why is it still your church ?
Posts by jhine
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9414 months after printing the "Steve and Selma" article, guess what the Society's latest Awake is about...
by cedars inyou guessed it.... .
http://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=pdf&issue=201304&output=html&pub=g&langwritten=e&option=trgchlzrqvnyvrxf&txtcmslang=e.
cedars.
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what takes away salvation
by jhine ini am certain that the watchtower society is of the devil , they tell so many lies to cover up their false doctrines and satan is the father of all lies .
so logically somewhere in those false doctrines there is something that prevents the rank and file from receiving salvation as satan works so hard to keep them in "the truth " does anyone else agree with that statement ?
if so, what is it in their teaching that keeps them from the free gift of salvation that comes by the grace of god alone ?
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jhine
Designs , so the problem with the New Testament is the New Testament , have you given up talking to me ?
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New World Translation
by MsD init may seem like a stupid question but who was responsible for translating their version of the bible?
i heard it was ray franz, several governing body members.
does anybody have any legitimate info that can prove who exactly translated it?
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jhine
nice one Pterist , they did slip up by misquoting someone who was still alive . I wander what Tertullian etc would have said about the hatchet job done on their writings in "SHOULD YOU BELIEVE IN THE TRINITY? " I think that courts would have been kept very busy with all the litigation !!!!
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what takes away salvation
by jhine ini am certain that the watchtower society is of the devil , they tell so many lies to cover up their false doctrines and satan is the father of all lies .
so logically somewhere in those false doctrines there is something that prevents the rank and file from receiving salvation as satan works so hard to keep them in "the truth " does anyone else agree with that statement ?
if so, what is it in their teaching that keeps them from the free gift of salvation that comes by the grace of god alone ?
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jhine
Designs , PLease elaborate , you mention that Christianity is based on false premises , what do you consider these to be ? I don't want to upset you , so tell me to back off if you want , I know that you would without my permission ! but I think that maybe something personal happened to make you lose faith , maybe that's why my allusions to the love of God have been politely ignored . Things haven't all been rosey for me ,including losing my son to cancer , so I know about pain.
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what takes away salvation
by jhine ini am certain that the watchtower society is of the devil , they tell so many lies to cover up their false doctrines and satan is the father of all lies .
so logically somewhere in those false doctrines there is something that prevents the rank and file from receiving salvation as satan works so hard to keep them in "the truth " does anyone else agree with that statement ?
if so, what is it in their teaching that keeps them from the free gift of salvation that comes by the grace of god alone ?
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jhine
good morning ,Designs , though a day late . seems to be only us left on this topic , and you're not that enthusiastic are you ? From where does your sceptisism come ? you seem knowledgeable about a lot of stuff , have you been a believer ? you still haven't made comment on my suggestions , " Who Moved The STone " is interesting and thoughtful and C.S Lewis is interlectual . It would be nice if would look from a neutral weiwpoint at what I , PSac ,Preterist etc believe in if you are going to slag off our beliefs . Also you do seem to be almost deliberately missing the point about Watchtower . I have no arguement with Catholics , Baptists ,Pentecostals etc I have stated that we can all , under the guidence of the Holy Spirit have fellowship and learn from each other . The problem with Witnesses is that they cut themselves off from other denominations on the instructions of the governing body who are scared that they will realise that they are under the thumb of a cult , which lies to them about basic facts , like the history of Trinitarian teaching , the council of Nicea , the teaching of the Church Fathers , facts , not , ideologies .
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what takes away salvation
by jhine ini am certain that the watchtower society is of the devil , they tell so many lies to cover up their false doctrines and satan is the father of all lies .
so logically somewhere in those false doctrines there is something that prevents the rank and file from receiving salvation as satan works so hard to keep them in "the truth " does anyone else agree with that statement ?
if so, what is it in their teaching that keeps them from the free gift of salvation that comes by the grace of god alone ?
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jhine
hello , anyone there ?
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New World Translation
by MsD init may seem like a stupid question but who was responsible for translating their version of the bible?
i heard it was ray franz, several governing body members.
does anybody have any legitimate info that can prove who exactly translated it?
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jhine
I believe that it pre-dates Ray Franz by some time and that has some very dodgy background , especially the " the Word was A god " translation which they used an ex Catholic priest called Gruber who was into spiritualism to authenticate . They now deny that they knew his connection to spiritualism at the time ,of course . There are some excellent articles online about the NWT .
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what takes away salvation
by jhine ini am certain that the watchtower society is of the devil , they tell so many lies to cover up their false doctrines and satan is the father of all lies .
so logically somewhere in those false doctrines there is something that prevents the rank and file from receiving salvation as satan works so hard to keep them in "the truth " does anyone else agree with that statement ?
if so, what is it in their teaching that keeps them from the free gift of salvation that comes by the grace of god alone ?
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jhine
anyway , have to go now , back on Monday .
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what takes away salvation
by jhine ini am certain that the watchtower society is of the devil , they tell so many lies to cover up their false doctrines and satan is the father of all lies .
so logically somewhere in those false doctrines there is something that prevents the rank and file from receiving salvation as satan works so hard to keep them in "the truth " does anyone else agree with that statement ?
if so, what is it in their teaching that keeps them from the free gift of salvation that comes by the grace of god alone ?
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jhine
o.k. tough guy , sorry I even thought it , but you havent made any comment on my suggestions .
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what takes away salvation
by jhine ini am certain that the watchtower society is of the devil , they tell so many lies to cover up their false doctrines and satan is the father of all lies .
so logically somewhere in those false doctrines there is something that prevents the rank and file from receiving salvation as satan works so hard to keep them in "the truth " does anyone else agree with that statement ?
if so, what is it in their teaching that keeps them from the free gift of salvation that comes by the grace of god alone ?
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jhine
Designs ,did my post shock /offend you so much that you were stunned into silence , if so I appologise . I braced myself for your reply ! Perhaps you are working on the principal of ignoring something and it will go away .