many that have come to this forum have left the jws religion and moved on with their lives but from a outsider's viewpoint what do think makes the jws religion wrong or incorrect as a active christian faith ?.
somethings come to mind such as its long continuous end times/armageddon soon doctrine which has really been a core doctrine for decades going right back to its beginning .. maybe they should have adopted the stance as other christian based faiths and adhered to jesus's own words when he said " no one knows of the time not even he ".
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I'm with TD on that , certainly in the UK . I don't think that l know anyone who has any idea about the WT , except maybe that they don't celebrate Christmas and that's usually because they have children of school age and are told " Sue or Tom don't have presents like we do at Christmas"
It seems that like Mormons there are lots more JWs in the States than here.
Jan
for whatever reason i was thinking on the topic of jehovah's witnesses' practice of disfellowshipping its members based on the concept of preventing "bringing reproach on jehovah's name".
follow me if you will -.
over 20 years ago a friend of mine did something rather crazy; he committed a major crime.
Paul speaks of " not eating " with such a person ie an unrepentant sinner . As l have said before l think this means not sharing the bread and wine with them .
This, he said, is to give them chance to think of what they are losing , which is not being part of an organisation, but their salvation.
So it's for the sake of the person's eternal life , not for the sake of the church .
As has been said you can't bring reproach on God . So the WT basically seems to be throwing people to the lions just to protect itself. Of course if the person then in the due course of time goes crawling back , all well and good. They have distanced themselves from whatever they have done .
Jan
many that have come to this forum have left the jws religion and moved on with their lives but from a outsider's viewpoint what do think makes the jws religion wrong or incorrect as a active christian faith ?.
somethings come to mind such as its long continuous end times/armageddon soon doctrine which has really been a core doctrine for decades going right back to its beginning .. maybe they should have adopted the stance as other christian based faiths and adhered to jesus's own words when he said " no one knows of the time not even he ".
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FFGhost , Ephesians 2:8-10
" For it is by grace that you have been saved , through faith - and this is not from yourselves , it is the GIFT of God - not by works, so that no one can boast.
For we are God's handiwork , created in Christ Jesus TO DO good works , which God prepared in advance for us . "
New International Version. Capitals mine . Jan
latest advice for jw parents: if your kids get disfellowshipped, fight the urge to blame yourself.
yes, great advice.
if your clueless, underage child is struggling in life, don't blame yourself, stop thinking about it and move on.
Surely Hebrews 12 : 11 is talking about God's discipline, not man's.
Though of course to them it's the same thing .
Jan
many that have come to this forum have left the jws religion and moved on with their lives but from a outsider's viewpoint what do think makes the jws religion wrong or incorrect as a active christian faith ?.
somethings come to mind such as its long continuous end times/armageddon soon doctrine which has really been a core doctrine for decades going right back to its beginning .. maybe they should have adopted the stance as other christian based faiths and adhered to jesus's own words when he said " no one knows of the time not even he ".
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Shunning is not a Christian way of doing things . Paul does say not to eat with Christian's who go wrong. This probably means do not share the Bread and Wine with them as this was commonly done during a shared meal .
As far as l am aware it doesn't say anywhere in the Bible to treat such people like lepers .
The WT simply uses this tactic to control it's members .
False prophecies , flip flops on doctrine , as has already been said there is too much to mention .
Jan
i just received a hand written envelope through the post containing an invitation to the online 2021 convenient.
i'm in staffs in the uk .
jan .
Cheers FFGhost . 😁. Very helpful.
Jan
i just received a hand written envelope through the post containing an invitation to the online 2021 convenient.
i'm in staffs in the uk .
jan .
FFGhost , that's just what happened- not 😂 . I don't know what a ball peen hammer is , do they cost much ?
Jan
i just received a hand written envelope through the post containing an invitation to the online 2021 convenient.
i'm in staffs in the uk .
jan .
It was addressed to The Householder , not to me personally. No l don't have any JW family , l think that maybe this could be ' getting time in ' .
IWant2Leave that sounds about right .
Jan
i just received a hand written envelope through the post containing an invitation to the online 2021 convenient.
i'm in staffs in the uk .
jan .
I just received a hand written envelope through the post containing an invitation to the online 2021 convenient. Has anyone else had one of these ? I'm in Staffs in the UK .
Jan
1. when individuals leave the organization for conscience reasons, it is evidence that god is shepherding and protecting the flock by doing a sifting work.
when people leave another christian religion it is evidence that the religion is morally corrupt and unable or unwilling to provide spiritually for their members.. 2. when a christian from another denomination lies, he is acting according to his own disposition being from the father of the lie.
when a jehovah's witness lies, he is proving his loyalty to jehovah and fulfilling his sacred obligation to engage in spiritual warfare.. 3. during times of rapid growth the organization claims this is evidence of gods approval as he "speeds it up in his own time".
Truth_b_known that's brilliant . He would definitely liven up any Evensong service
Jan
