canada has universal healthcare.
the consensus is that america never will.
can anyone explain why, please?
LUHE , the " I'm alright - sod you Jack " attitude just doesn't seem very nice somehow. " I can afford to stay alive , you can't so tough " seems to indicate a society that just doesn't care.
I've quoted this before but l like it so ..
One of the Greek philosophers said that the measure of how civilised a society is can me measured by how it takes care of it's weakest members.
Jan from Tam
im not an atheist, makes no mathematical sense, nor does the buy(more) bull(shit) god make any logical sense... maybe a deist on my best day, in the end you cannot get something from nothing, paradox if you ask me... but in reality i just dont care.
while in, and moving out of the cult, its like a roller coaster, emotionally, yet, for me, over time, i just take it one day at a time, and if appeasing some special deity is required, well i guess i failed.
lol.
I did see what you did there Punky .
Jan from Tam ( as l shall now be known)
im not an atheist, makes no mathematical sense, nor does the buy(more) bull(shit) god make any logical sense... maybe a deist on my best day, in the end you cannot get something from nothing, paradox if you ask me... but in reality i just dont care.
while in, and moving out of the cult, its like a roller coaster, emotionally, yet, for me, over time, i just take it one day at a time, and if appeasing some special deity is required, well i guess i failed.
lol.
Erm what's happened to Beaver?
Jan
canada has universal healthcare.
the consensus is that america never will.
can anyone explain why, please?
Where does the notion come from that Universal Healthcare costs more than private?
It absolutely doesn't. Most Brits pay, on average. about the same per annum through taxes, which are based on income, than the average American per month.
I understand that people can still go bankrupt paying for treatment in America even though they have insurance.
Diabetics die because they can't afford insulin because , of course , businesses aren't going to pay out more than has been put in to fund life long care .
Americans have pen pushers who have no medical knowledge decide if the treatment needed is financially viable.
A couple l know have a son who is married to an American lady and lives in America. They have good insurance but when one of their new born twins needed essential surgery for spina bifida the insurance company questioned the doctor's recommendation. The office based " professional " wanted to know basically if the money spent would be worth the outcome!!!. The surgery wasn't to save the child's life but vastly improve the quality. So you have a system where bean counters can over rule a highly qualified medical professional . Fortunately the op did take place.
No thank you sir , l would fight tooth and nail to keep that kind of healthcare from the UK
The NHS isn't perfect but by heck l will take it over the American system
Jan
im not an atheist, makes no mathematical sense, nor does the buy(more) bull(shit) god make any logical sense... maybe a deist on my best day, in the end you cannot get something from nothing, paradox if you ask me... but in reality i just dont care.
while in, and moving out of the cult, its like a roller coaster, emotionally, yet, for me, over time, i just take it one day at a time, and if appeasing some special deity is required, well i guess i failed.
lol.
Beaver you say that you are not an atheist because it makes no mathematical sense . So I'm curious do you believe in something?
Jan
dear leamington spa and warwick elders.
i wanted to thank you for your letter that has set me free.
you have finally confirmed to me how ignorant you are as an elder body.. you should all be ashamed of yourselves as elders.. .
Yep Punky , how true .
I did read somewhere, possibly on here , that this is a deliberate aim of the Org. To make sure that if someone leaves they find it impossible to go elsewhere to have Christian fellowship.
Please don't rule out the possibility, in the future, of finding a group of believers who you can feel comfortable with .
Jan
dear leamington spa and warwick elders.
i wanted to thank you for your letter that has set me free.
you have finally confirmed to me how ignorant you are as an elder body.. you should all be ashamed of yourselves as elders.. .
Hi Gavin , you really have been , proverbially , to hell and back . Well done for coming through it all .
Are you British or South African?
You seem to have retained your faith , which is pretty miraculous. Do you belong to any Christian group now ?
Jan
july 15 simplified study watchtower par 8, p. 24 - “we need to obey the faithful and discreet slave to have jehovah’s approval.”.
(john 14:6) jesus said to him: “i am the way and the truth and the life.
no one comes to the father except through me, or the wtbts inc.".
Maybe because they didn't want you to see them ?
Jan
we seem to have had an influx of religiots - the people who want to tell us all about how we / the wts / whoever are wrong, wrong, wrong about everything and how right they are.
they obviously have special insight, or voices (probably voices, right?
) telling them the real truth.. as proof, there is inevitably a wall of random scripture references and quotes.. sorry, but we're not here for that.
Wow thanks Phizzy, l will take that . 😁.
There are a few more like me ( but I'm the best 🤣 ) .
Jan
we seem to have had an influx of religiots - the people who want to tell us all about how we / the wts / whoever are wrong, wrong, wrong about everything and how right they are.
they obviously have special insight, or voices (probably voices, right?
) telling them the real truth.. as proof, there is inevitably a wall of random scripture references and quotes.. sorry, but we're not here for that.
Absolutely Phizzy , thank you
Jan
