the bible does not say that god does not want to lie, but that he cannot lie or it is impossible for god to lie.
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so, if god cannot lie, for what purpose and why did he create creatures (satan, demons, humans) who can lie?.
Nicolaou l don't think that a doctor would say " your Mother will not die " because he / she would know differently.
Or they would mean that she wouldn't die from that particular thing .
Doctors usually say : your Mother can have many more years ahead of her " or something like .
Your pretend conversation is contrived to support the point that you want to make
Jan from Tam
i’ve decided to disassociate from the jw organisation.
i cannot be part of a community that blatantly rejects the sacrifice of jesus in that demonic memorial ritual.
amazing what information you find when you start researching.. i’m writing my letter and posting it to the kingdom hall this morning.
1Corinthians : 5 talks about how to deal with sinful Christians. However it means idolaters, adulterers, drunkards etc . People who habitually behave in such ways , not someone who slips and has a couple of sherrys too many then repents . Or someone who is tempted into a one night stand and repents .
The WT goes way beyond Biblical teaching.
Jan from Tam
i’ve decided to disassociate from the jw organisation.
i cannot be part of a community that blatantly rejects the sacrifice of jesus in that demonic memorial ritual.
amazing what information you find when you start researching.. i’m writing my letter and posting it to the kingdom hall this morning.
DoC l didn't mean to give Teddnzo grief . I was just making the point that shunning is working. So many people stay in because of the fear of being shunned.
Jan from Tam
the bible does not say that god does not want to lie, but that he cannot lie or it is impossible for god to lie.
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so, if god cannot lie, for what purpose and why did he create creatures (satan, demons, humans) who can lie?.
God created perfect. However he gave mankind free will and ' sin ' came into the world.
I think of it like someone who had devised a perfect computer programme and a jealous rival snook a bug in .
Not a perfect analogy but it helps me
Jan from Tam
i’ve decided to disassociate from the jw organisation.
i cannot be part of a community that blatantly rejects the sacrifice of jesus in that demonic memorial ritual.
amazing what information you find when you start researching.. i’m writing my letter and posting it to the kingdom hall this morning.
Teddnzo , but those same good friends would drop you like a stone if you dissasociated. Is that true friendship. ? Yes l know that they do it out of ' love " but they won't care how much it hurts you or how your life goes after that. In fact if your life takes a downward turn it will be your own fault for leaving. Not because your friends are now ignoring you .
So it's working you stay in out of fear.
Jan from Tam
the wt teaches that the memorial ( communion) should only be celebrated yearly and only the anointed can partake of the bread and wine .
is that right ?
i don't think so ..
Not former l totally agree, everything about Watchtower teaching is about obedience and submission.
Jan from Tam
the wt teaches that the memorial ( communion) should only be celebrated yearly and only the anointed can partake of the bread and wine .
is that right ?
i don't think so ..
RonW thank you for those links , really interesting .
The whole teaching seems to be based ( used loosely) on cherry picked verses taken out of context.
It's really surprising how many emotionally and mentally unbalanced JWs there are !!! That is always the go to get out card ." You don't believe us any more - mentally diseased " ," you think you are anointed- mentally unstable "
The whole tenor of the article is condescending, the questions suitable for children.
Jan from Tam
the wt teaches that the memorial ( communion) should only be celebrated yearly and only the anointed can partake of the bread and wine .
is that right ?
i don't think so ..
Ron and Tonus thanks for that information. I am not familiar with the history of the Memorial in the WT
On another thread a comment was made that Jesus only told the original 11 Apostles to keep taking the bread and wine . I cited 1Cor 10 : 16 as proof that in fact the whole church had adopted the practise and Paul was totally ok with that. As long as people approached the Sacrament in with the right spirit
It has also occurred to me that if it was only the 11 who were originally instructed to partake how come even now after all the changes the 144 , 000 can
Non of the ' logic ' makes sense to me
I can find no Biblical evidence for the WT teaching . I have asked but non forthcoming.
Jan from Tam
the wt teaches that the memorial ( communion) should only be celebrated yearly and only the anointed can partake of the bread and wine .
is that right ?
i don't think so ..
The WT teaches that the Memorial ( Communion) should only be celebrated yearly and only the anointed can partake of the bread and wine
Is that right ? I don't think so .
i’ve decided to disassociate from the jw organisation.
i cannot be part of a community that blatantly rejects the sacrifice of jesus in that demonic memorial ritual.
amazing what information you find when you start researching.. i’m writing my letter and posting it to the kingdom hall this morning.
LHG , l see your point. Time and again l have to remind myself that l just don't understand the mindset of the fully immersed rank and file .
To me me the loss of such fickle friends is no loss at all . Then l remember that people who shun think that they are doing it out of love .
It's just so screwed up .
Jan from Tam
