i was shocked when i heard a circuit overseer include a strange comment in his concluding prayer at the end of this sundays meeting concerning the adjustments discussed in the watchtower.
he said, in part (and im paraphrasing) thank you jehovah for the governing bodys unapologetic manner in providing these adjustments.
i thought to myself, what a strange expression to make in prayer to god!
Unapologetic most certainly can be used in a posative context.....or at least from the perspective of this CO it would seem posative.
In other words he is saying, thanks for having the guys give it to us raw and unfiltered, and not care about what some may think about it. We need it rough!
That is the paraphrase, and the CO is probbaly a tool. He didn't happen to be visiting a southern California congregation was he? :)
us diplomatic cables relating to jehovah's witnesses and the watch tower society.
jw leaks has commenced publishing us diplomatic cables relating to jehovahs witnesses and the watch tower society.. the first series of diplomatic cables deals with the years 1973 1976 and provides a unique insight into the role the us government played in assisting the watch tower society around the world during the turbulent mid-1970s.. these diplomatic cables deal with the treatment of jehovahs witnesses in malawi, the banning of the watch tower society in kenya and argentina, arrests of jehovahs witness missionaries and members around the world (incl.
turkey, spain, greece, kenya, mozambique), the us governments diplomatic political assistance in trying to get grant suiter and milton henschel into south africa for a visit, and the seizing of watch tower society property in various countries.. when taken together the cables show the degree of reliance the watch tower society has placed in the us department of state and various us embassies to secure the presence of the corporation in africa, asia, and south america.. these diplomatic cables will especially assist those who are researching the history of jehovahs witnesses in africa, asia, south america, turkey, greece, and spain.. .
They use the first ammendment and all other things afforded to them from this evil Satanic world don't they.
First ammendment is a sheild when they want it, and a sword when they need it.
jw.org faq trickery #1 - are only jehovah's witnesses going to be saved?.
from the description:.
if you have been associated for any length of time with the jehovah's witnesses you know that they believe they are the only true religion and the only ones that will be saved before the war of armageddon.
Ugh. The double talk in the FAQ section is just crazy. I will say, this is the doctrine that I believe most JW's don't really believe.
I don't think the VAST majority of JW;s believe that JW's are going to be the only ones that survive the big A, even though that is what is explicitly taught.
as an apostate, i'm currently compiling a list of changed doctrines and "new light" changes over the years.
this is mainly for discussing with witnesses in the future.
i feel if i don't present full truth of their own doctrine, they will knock me down and rightfully say that i did not give full infomation(hypocrites much?).
I had an interesting conversation privately with a CO about my feelings about blood. His reasoning on why it shouldn't bother me?
"Nobody is really disfellowshipped for that anymore"
From his mouth to Gods ear.
Seeing tomorrow.
just talked to an older jw in my old hall.
he said there was a special 2 hour elder's meeting recently in southern california spanning many counties and areas.
apparently, due to the massive jw growth, the rbc or wt (he didn't know which one) will be announcing they they are asking each family to contribute $10/month toward new construction of kingdom halls in the southern california area.. .
Well they sure are remodeling and building, bu not alot of new baptisms. Its just people moving around.
so i recently heard the following comment from one of the shearers of sheep:.
"one may think they have an effective method of talking to people about the bible, but the fds have given us the proper presentation in the kingdom ministry.
they tell us what to say because that is what works best.
Heard this with my own ears, but I think it has made the rounds.
Jehovah can forgive the slave for being incorrect or too eager, but he will not forgive those who go against his arrange ment and run ahead of the celestial chariot.
My head almost exploded.
this was brand new to me........did some research, like we're not supposed to do ;) and dug up crazy stuff that i had no idea about.
my whole life we were taught have bad and evil "christendom" was for trying to pacify hiter during his rise to power, and how different we were for standing up to him!.
then i found about the letter dated june 25,1933 from rutherford and his writting team to hiter.
No kidding. Yes the guilt flows from the podium with the few things they let out to the rank and file as "apostate teasers" in order to help them know what they already know from trolling around boards such as this one.
Basically I think they introduce a few specific things in a CAN YOU BELIEVE IT kind of manner, so that the brick wall flies up at the slightest mention of what is out in the zetgeist about JW's.
this was brand new to me........did some research, like we're not supposed to do ;) and dug up crazy stuff that i had no idea about.
my whole life we were taught have bad and evil "christendom" was for trying to pacify hiter during his rise to power, and how different we were for standing up to him!.
then i found about the letter dated june 25,1933 from rutherford and his writting team to hiter.
Ok so one small tiny little itty bitty defence here. Nobody quite knew the extend of Hitlers derangement when this was sent. He basically was starting to control information when this was sent. He had not yet gone to war with Poland, and began gassing people....at least not to anyones knowledge. And even if someone did know.......Rutherford didn't. The ego on that guy.
More concerning to me, if the clearly anti-semetic language.
Either way, "blunder at best" is a good description of it. At the convention during the human apostates ramblings, they said....
"Some apostates have even gone so far as to say the organization supported Hitler (gasp). Can you believe it friends......will their lies ever stop."
I remember thinking.....yeah you kind of did in a boneheaded ego filled idiotic kind of way. Nothing meaningful, just pure stupidity. Regardless though, anyone who now finds this readily available information on the internet, has just seen an apostate lie.
So they are playing ahead of the game. Very interesting. Easier to pick out the people going on line to Satans series of tubes.
the local needs talk this week was about helping with the building project in warick new york.
the speaker said twice that project was for building the "world head quarters"!
then he added twice; that the "great tribulation" cannot start to after the "world head quarters" is built!
This is just a looney local elders musings. He is clearly off the reservation.
