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problemaddict
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How many JW apologists really post here?
by Londo111 inyesterday, stand for pure worship confessed that he has been trolling jwn, as he has through many incarnations.. it makes me wonder if any of the jw apologists that have posted here over my last two years have been real: scholar, recovery, and so forth..
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problemaddict
Welcome LGB. Introduce yourself on another thread. Not everyone makes it to page 5. Haha.
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How many JW apologists really post here?
by Londo111 inyesterday, stand for pure worship confessed that he has been trolling jwn, as he has through many incarnations.. it makes me wonder if any of the jw apologists that have posted here over my last two years have been real: scholar, recovery, and so forth..
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problemaddict
Ummmm....why do you have to be dishonest and inauthentic to play devils advocate? You can do so with integrity. I don't agree with that.
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How many JW apologists really post here?
by Londo111 inyesterday, stand for pure worship confessed that he has been trolling jwn, as he has through many incarnations.. it makes me wonder if any of the jw apologists that have posted here over my last two years have been real: scholar, recovery, and so forth..
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problemaddict
Wait what!? Why the hell would someone do that?
People lack integrity, and just waste others time. Its a shame. Need to get a real life, and stopwasting others.
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A story about Reggie and Reginald... and why it makes me cringe... more vomiting
by confusedandalone inso i grew up in new jersey in a very urban part of the state.
i literally only saw white folks if they were in a police car or if i went to the assembly.
the funny thing is at the assembly there was still a level of segregation as well although it was self-imposed.
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problemaddict
^^^Moron.
Of course since you experienced a little back and forth, you must know exactly what it feels like to be marginalized and disrespected. Good grief.
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A story about Reggie and Reginald... and why it makes me cringe... more vomiting
by confusedandalone inso i grew up in new jersey in a very urban part of the state.
i literally only saw white folks if they were in a police car or if i went to the assembly.
the funny thing is at the assembly there was still a level of segregation as well although it was self-imposed.
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problemaddict
Dang man I regret not speaking up last year....much less as a younger man. You were who you were, and did what you did. Regret is a useless emotion. Get it out, know that you have your integrity, and stand looking into the empty ocean of possibility.
Thats what i'm tring to do anyways.
One of my closest friends was one of the "black elite", meaning JR brown, Ralph Walls, those guys. He would have them flown out on the congregations dime for a talk/vacation. he always told me these guys get a little wine in them and start talking about the racism, the (once), all white GB, the way they had to "take control".
It was always shocking to me at the time. Surely there was no racism in Gods house!
Sheesh.
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problemaddict
Welcome N7,
You should stick around. While you have been so kind as to share your opinion on her video, and you are entitled to your opinion, you are conflating a few things improperly. You have painted with broad strokes all who call themselves Christian.
There is a very important aspect to this video that you are missing. The man on the other line, is not being honest and forthright. He simply isn't. He believes he is talking to a potential JW or someone studying, and he is white washing the truth. 2 things specifically.
1) "We don't use the term mentally diseased." This is an outright falsehood. Did you attend the same district convention I did this summer? Remember the talk about "apostates"?
2) "Even when disfellowshipping, the family ties remain". BS. If you are a minor or in a serious bind and live under the ame roof as other family, you are allowed to have limited contact witht hat person. if you do not live at home, you are specifially directed to shun the person wether it is your father, mother, sister, brother, etc...
Now wether or not you agree that these actions are correct is besides the point my friend. What is on topic here, is wether he was honest about those things. However you may feel about NE playing a role with him on the phone is also moot. Did he whitewash the truth? Can you be honest about it?
Honestly bud, stick around a bit. People here are just like you and people you know. We have all kinds. Most of the people here have lost family, friends, been abused, or had other serious problems simply because they decided to feel differently about the religion they once had. Thats it. Nobody starts out feeling betrayed......you have to be betrayed first.
Either way you are welcome, and this is a safe place for you to express yourself and ask questions. There are former and current elders, servants, pioneers, and even some former CO's and bethelites. Even a peppering of Gilead grads. I still attend meetings sometimes (not because I want to mind you).
So pull up a chair, be a Berean. Welcome to the board.
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Experiences: CAA needs to emotionally vomit... catharsis... release ... etc.
by confusedandalone inok, so i have been on this journey for about a year or so.
i feel like i am no longer a part of this whacked out religion, however at the same time after spending so many years in it there have been a huge array of things that have happened to me that i feel i need to talk about.
not because they will help anyone who reads them, not because they are the slightest bit interesting, but because i can no longer keep them bottled up and expect to move on.. alot of things i have experienced hurt me deeply... although i was able to move forward with my life these things tend to hang around in my mind because i have never been able to tell anyone outside of my wife.
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problemaddict
Is this your brother the now trying to be a CO brother?
Thanks for sharing man. Good to get stuff off your chest. i hope to tell some stories soon enough, depending on how the next few months go.
As a young man, pioneering, and all that, I was a bit "in demand" in my area of California. It was amazing how many sisters just threw their clothes off.....and then kept right on doing it. Ating like we are better than everyone else and that there is a moral highground, is just nuts.
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Have You Ever Met...Or KNOW...a GB Member?
by Cold Steel inif so, what is your experience?
i've seen only a few talks by gb members and would like to hear what they're like.
are they personable, aloof, humble, arrogant?
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problemaddict
CAA,
Did you know Sam Heard well at all?
Yeah if he was spouting off racist nonsense it was probably the nice thing to do to consider him nutty. A kimono and a pan of jello is in fact pretty nuts.
Of course all of us were and are even more nuts, for having believed these few men were somehow semi-inspired of God to lead us.
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How can i continue my fade vs the rubber band theorem that pulls my wife in
by DS211 inim at a crossroads my friends.
im beginning to feel that my oppurtunities to get my wife out are waning.
weve misssed many meetings she still smokes a cig a day.
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problemaddict
I don't think telling her you want out is good. Teling her you have doubts is better. It won't accomplish anythign if she goes full defensive.
There are parts about being a JW that feel "secure" when you aren't really thinking about it. I mean, you have amix ready set of "friends" or at least people who are generally friendly. There is familiarity. There is structure. The kids play with other kids. You get to be "sure" you are right and have all the answers.
There is a draw to all those things. So that is where she is at. Imagine smoking that cigarrette and feeling guilty every day right after you do it as a JW. Yikes!
Make sure you really express how much you love her. Buy her something! Wrap it! Don't do it next week do it this week. Arouse her curiosity in why you are having doubts and maybe she will ask you about them. Then you can try to give her some of her own. As it is, just allow her to believe you are "weak" currently.