doing some research as to what qualifications someone needs to meet to become an elder, i came up with one conclusion: it's who you know and is very subjective.. funny thing is too, if you searc the wt online library there are not recent articles that describe and outline the requirements.
which makes me think that there were too many requirements and as we all know, it is based now on how close you are with the current co and not necessarily on being a model jw in the congo.
so the borg decided to leave it up all to the co and not tell the rest what to look for on these appointed men.. you could do your hours, be early to the meetings, be prepared, keep your car and house clean, family in good reputation, etc but if you are in the circle then you can forget it.
DATA-DOG you are right, there is a huge disconnect between "visible" and "tangible" and the appearance of being "spiritual".
If you really look into it, almost no one that I know would qualify for an elder for the exception of a couple. I guess it comes down to who you know, how good can you fake it, now it comes to play if you are tight with the CO and can you keep up with the appearances of being "spiritual".
Hey wait a minute, I do qualify to be an elder then!... but no thank you.
doing some research as to what qualifications someone needs to meet to become an elder, i came up with one conclusion: it's who you know and is very subjective.. funny thing is too, if you searc the wt online library there are not recent articles that describe and outline the requirements.
which makes me think that there were too many requirements and as we all know, it is based now on how close you are with the current co and not necessarily on being a model jw in the congo.
so the borg decided to leave it up all to the co and not tell the rest what to look for on these appointed men.. you could do your hours, be early to the meetings, be prepared, keep your car and house clean, family in good reputation, etc but if you are in the circle then you can forget it.
Just Kidding-I actually did hear an elder say that he doesn't like to go when the group meets in the week because there is hardly any support. No one would see that he is there so he'd rather go when the whole congregations meets.
doing some research as to what qualifications someone needs to meet to become an elder, i came up with one conclusion: it's who you know and is very subjective.. funny thing is too, if you searc the wt online library there are not recent articles that describe and outline the requirements.
which makes me think that there were too many requirements and as we all know, it is based now on how close you are with the current co and not necessarily on being a model jw in the congo.
so the borg decided to leave it up all to the co and not tell the rest what to look for on these appointed men.. you could do your hours, be early to the meetings, be prepared, keep your car and house clean, family in good reputation, etc but if you are in the circle then you can forget it.
I also think that there are no clear written requirements now, that way the rank and file doesn't have a leg to stand on. If you feel like an elder is doing something wrong, you will find almost no information on why he should be removed based on certain behavior not outlined in the borg's publications.
Who is the rand and file complain to? The rest of the BOE? or the CO with over 20 congregations to attend to?
this was inspired by terry's thread.... it is something that raises many questions about the jw belief system.. .
for one thing - the bible certainly explains all the details of the christ birth.
it certainly does not tell people to avoid celebrating it with feasts, customs, etc.
Merry Christmas!!!
I wish I could say it more openly and often.
doing some research as to what qualifications someone needs to meet to become an elder, i came up with one conclusion: it's who you know and is very subjective.. funny thing is too, if you searc the wt online library there are not recent articles that describe and outline the requirements.
which makes me think that there were too many requirements and as we all know, it is based now on how close you are with the current co and not necessarily on being a model jw in the congo.
so the borg decided to leave it up all to the co and not tell the rest what to look for on these appointed men.. you could do your hours, be early to the meetings, be prepared, keep your car and house clean, family in good reputation, etc but if you are in the circle then you can forget it.
Doing some research as to what qualifications someone needs to meet to become an elder, I came up with one conclusion: It's who you know and is very subjective.
Funny thing is too, if you searc the WT online library there are not recent articles that describe and outline the requirements. Which makes me think that there were too many requirements and as we all know, it is based now on how close you are with the current CO and not necessarily on being a model JW in the congo. So the borg decided to leave it up all to the CO and not tell the rest what to look for on these appointed men.
You could do your hours, be early to the meetings, be prepared, keep your car and house clean, family in good reputation, etc but if you are in the circle then you can forget it. Which is ok with me, I wouldn't want to waste my precious and important family time, but that's just to show how so not present the holy spirit is with these elder appointments... if there is such thing as a wholy spirit present that is but that's another subject.
i've heard it mentioned a few times.. the rotating earth graphic in the background on jwtv rotates backwards.. i've mentioned it to the active and they are not concerned at all.. my response is, "it's something they are portraying that cannot be more wrong".. .
two gb members have stood in front of it telling us to trust them.
how can you when they think the sun rises in the west.... .
where?? I can't see it
the latest wtaf dub convention video...enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ioych9mady.
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I'm on this video!!
Yeah, it was worse in person. Talk about brothers and sisters showing their true colors.
"las obligaciones que este nuevo regimen fiscal nos pide: llevar de manera electronica un registro de todas sus operaciones de ingresos y egresos; tener documentacion comprobatoria de cada operacion, acto o actividad; enviar informe contable mensual a traves de la pagina del sat; expedir comprobante fiscal digital por internet (cfdi).".
http://www.elsiglodedurango.com.mx/noticia/535395.con-el-nuevo-regimen-fiscal-la-iglesia-catolica-pagara-impuestos-.html.
roughly traslated: the requirements of the new fiscal system require: to record electronically a ledge of all income and expenses; to record and document all operations, acts or activities, to send a registed monthly report through sat's (kind of like the irs in the us) website, submit comprobante fiscal digidtal por internet (cfdi) (sort of tax form) .
Any religious group and non-profit organizations according to the information I read.
"las obligaciones que este nuevo regimen fiscal nos pide: llevar de manera electronica un registro de todas sus operaciones de ingresos y egresos; tener documentacion comprobatoria de cada operacion, acto o actividad; enviar informe contable mensual a traves de la pagina del sat; expedir comprobante fiscal digital por internet (cfdi).".
http://www.elsiglodedurango.com.mx/noticia/535395.con-el-nuevo-regimen-fiscal-la-iglesia-catolica-pagara-impuestos-.html.
roughly traslated: the requirements of the new fiscal system require: to record electronically a ledge of all income and expenses; to record and document all operations, acts or activities, to send a registed monthly report through sat's (kind of like the irs in the us) website, submit comprobante fiscal digidtal por internet (cfdi) (sort of tax form) .
"Las obligaciones que este nuevo Régimen Fiscal nos pide: Llevar de manera electrónica un registro de todas sus operaciones de ingresos y egresos; tener documentación comprobatoria de cada operación, acto o actividad; enviar informe contable mensual a través de la página del SAT; expedir Comprobante Fiscal Digital por Internet (CFDI)."
http://www.elsiglodedurango.com.mx/noticia/535395.con-el-nuevo-regimen-fiscal-la-iglesia-catolica-pagara-impuestos-.html
Roughly traslated: The requirements of the new Fiscal System require: To record electronically a ledge of all income and expenses; to record and document all operations, acts or activities, to send a registed monthly report through SAT's (kind of like the IRS in the US) website, submit Comprobante Fiscal Digidtal por Internet (CFDI) (sort of tax form)
I just saw this today, I'll look more into it but it looks like the Mexican government is asking all religious and non-profit groups to submit all their financial data to avoid and detect money laundering-that's what the government is claiming the reason for this new tax reform.
There is some information I found that required these groups to pay taxes, I'm not sure about that yet but it looks like they may pay taxes and some Catholic priests say they already pay taxes. So I don't know, but this means that WT will have to be transparent in their financials if they want to give Ceasar what he's asking for.
number one- fact-it was dangerously overcrowed.
ok its one thing dropping the ball on this one.
or they just didnt care.
Houston International was expecting over 45k but it didn't get to that, I think the highest was 43k. The stadium could hold over 71k though.
