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Breaking news: "Bring it on" says local pervert
That video cover page makes me laugh out loud, literally, every time I see it:
It'd be good to promote things like that in advance - I didn't know it was a live stream until I clicked and watched. Great to see everyone being so supportive of each other. One positive thing Lloyd has done is brought many people together.
His days of isolating people and picking them off one by one is over.
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I just find it hard to believe that expats lost their British citizenship after Brexit.
I do too. You are a citizen of a country until you become a citizen of someplace else and revoke the previous one (or keep dual nationality).
They didn't even "un-citizen" ISIS cretins, the idea that it would be automatic for many thousands of ex-pats sounds absurd. And what if you're not in the EU? It just doesn't make sense to me.
I could see it affecting people's permanent residency status and require an application (for something that was automatically granted under the treaty previously), but that is quite different to citizenship status.
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Here is when he took many of us out of context over the Russian Ban:
And speaking of the Russian ban, who of us can forget his flow chart.
The daft thing about his video, is that he's right about the Russia thing - it is sick to be cheering on heavy handed abuse of government power, and we should separate criticism of the WTS from hatred of JWs.
... but it also applies to many of his other videos that are critical of the WTS for the sake of being critical. It's not welcoming to be ridiculing people or inventing scandals that don't exist.
I had an encounter with some crazy exJW on Twitter a few weeks ago. She wanted to claim that ALL JWs supported child abuse which is obviously not true and totally unfair. When I pointed out that she was being just as bigoted and judgemental as she claimed they were of course she went off about "white males, offering counsel" (actually no, fairly commenting in a public space).
The point is: we need to be balanced. I don't like Lloyd, but it's not difficult to say he was absolutely right about the Russia ban.
This "need to have an opposite viewpoint" based on who holds the view just permeates so much and it's not healthy and it makes some people look unbalanced and appear incapable of really looking at things objectively in a fair manner.
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"I don't feel comfortable discussing publicly the financial arrangements between myself and my lawyers"
If it was on a contingency basis, you know he'd be bragging about it, that it wasn't costing or risking him anything. So it's clearly something he's paying for, and he appears to be the perfect client ... for them. You can't take it as a complete measure of how confident they are in his case, they may not have the resources to "bet" on it, but it's certainly "a" measure and there's a gap between his description of it as some kind of slam-dunk easy victory.
What comes first?
1. Legal victory for Lloyd
2. Lack of funds from Lloyd
3. Armageddon
I think #2
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The choices of defendants to me is suspect.
I think you have some valid points, but I also think he's an opportunistic cunt and views it as a chance to put some "competition" out of business.
Look at his history. At every step his mo has been to silence other activists, especially YouTubers, so he can own that market. Other people aren't monetizing things but if they take viewers and attention away from him they cut into his money-making potential. I think that's the lens he views things through.
Once you realize that everything he does is about $$$ then his behavior is easy to explain and predict.
This is why he needs to be absolutely discredited and run out of our community. He's a cancer and won't go away until he's defunded and his free-loading ride is taken away.
That's why I'm proud to announce my "hunt down his patreons" hit squad ...
That last bit was a joke, to check you're paying attention.
a pimo elder at bethel has come forward with a special message posted on reddit.. https://www.reddit.com/gallery/v9mgao.
the dated pictures attached are "proof conclusive" that this is for real.
no outside guests are allowed inside bethel at this time.
Probably real. I mean nothing really like new or fake about this.
Whether it's real or unreal is unknowable and that's the point - the appeal to evidence that doesn't exist makes me think it's not real ... because otherwise why do it? Why not provide the evidence? Because it's not real?
We need to be more discerning and less gullible. Just because someone appears telling you something you want to believe that you are likely to believe doesn't make it true.
Even if it is true, we should have higher standards of what "proof" means.
i saw a statistic the other day that something like 25% of all the debt that the us has incurred since 1776 was created in the last 12 months.
that's because they have printed so much currency and instead of letting that stop them, they are going to continue printing more to go on a spending spree on crazy green-new-deal schemes and union handouts.. does anyone think that this can be anything other than inflationary?
they are effectively stealing the wealth of everyone to then hand money out to people.
The debt is too high to repay. Servicing the debt is going to come home to roost soon. I recall a friend who spent himself into a hole and was only able to pay the interest. You can write the rest of the story.
This is it - they can't afford even the interest part of the debt any more. This is why they are so keen to devalue the currency, because they also devalue the debt.
But it doesn't work because economics 101.
This is how every world power has gone down - the currency is devalued and the power collapses.
Keynesian bullshit economics.
If you want a really good insight into economics and how we got to where we are, this is essential viewing:
i saw a statistic the other day that something like 25% of all the debt that the us has incurred since 1776 was created in the last 12 months.
that's because they have printed so much currency and instead of letting that stop them, they are going to continue printing more to go on a spending spree on crazy green-new-deal schemes and union handouts.. does anyone think that this can be anything other than inflationary?
they are effectively stealing the wealth of everyone to then hand money out to people.
I don't think people really understand how utterly fucked most countries are.
The pension systems are broke and only have money to about 2030, but they still offer massively inflated pensions for public sector workers. It's unsustainable.
The debt to GDP ratio is off the chart.
Just imagine you could sell every single company listed on the Nasdaq, S&P500 etc... for full, peak, valuation (so nothing goes down in value when you start selling). It would pay something like 1/4 of the debt.
THE WORLD IS BANKRUPT!!
All the geniuses in charge want to do is keep telling people it's all transitory and kick the can down the road but they have no real plan other than an inevitable massive default and economic collapse.
Now in unrelated news, why do you think they are so intent on you handing over your guns?
a pimo elder at bethel has come forward with a special message posted on reddit.. https://www.reddit.com/gallery/v9mgao.
the dated pictures attached are "proof conclusive" that this is for real.
no outside guests are allowed inside bethel at this time.
The dated pictures attached are "proof conclusive" that this is for real.
They really aren't. I can't see any proof whatsoever. One is of a food menu, what is that proof of?
This is a claim, with some images attached, that don't appear related to the claim in any way.
I think we need to be more critical of these undercover exposes - they sound invented and I think believing and spreading them makes us easy targets for people who want to troll or build up a name for themselves as some leaker when they are anything but.
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Remember, defamation would require that a person make a claim that is untrue or that they cannot prove is true, made with malice aforethought.
It's more nuanced than that. It's that you make a statement that you know to be untrue.
Imagine "Fred" tells you that he's stolen money and you tell it to someone else. Even if it's untrue, Fred can't sue you for defamation. You had a valid, legitimate reason to believe it was true and no reason to believe it wasn't.
But if Fred tells you he's never stolen any money and you know he hasn't but still decide to tell someone he has because you hate Fred, now you have defamed him.
