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  Playstation 2

  by joel in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  so does anybody ever talk gamein' around here!?.

  playstation games are way cool!

  ssx--fifa--smugglers run.

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  Simon

  I've not seen a PS2 yet...sill have a PS1
  Command & Conquer is my thing
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  Are you Ex's still Christian?

  by joel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  whassup guys.

  i've spent most of my web time over the last 2 years at another site full of ex-jdubs...i'd say about 50 people post there on occasion...many of that number regularly.. what struck me from the beginning, as i got to know the people posting there was...how many were now atheists...non-believers in god...the bible...pretty much anything they once held sacred as jw's!.

  i dare say...90 some % do not consider themselves christian now!.

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  scorpion:
  The problem is that nearly all prophecy's are so vague and full of images that they are open to all sort of interpretation as to what fulfills them.
  The ones that are specific are written after the event...
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  Visiting a KH...

  by ianao in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a 'friend' of mine keeps telling me that everything i am reading here on this board is a packload of lies from people who have no respect for god.. he also tells me that if i would just go to the kh for once, that i would see for myself that jws are not the bad people that they are portrayed to be.. while i have my own convictions about this subject, i was curious to know what others' opinions would be on the fruitfullness of taking up this man's offer and going to the kh to see for myself.

  so, what do you think?

  what should i watch out for?

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  I guess it depends...
  If they see you as a potential convert then they will be all over you like a rash and everyone will want to be your friends.
  If, on the other hand, you are 'an evil apostate type who goes on the Internet' then it will be like one of those old westerns where tumbleweed blows across a deserted foyer and you are the lone gunfighter that everyone peeks at from behind shutters or, er...WatchTowers...
  They aren't bad people generally - I'd hate anyone reading this to get that idea. Unfortunately, they are misled and, as an organisation, the sum of it's parts is a bit lacking.
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  Platlets...can WTBTS policy be defended?

  by joel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if this topic has been addressed already...sorry...just ignore it.... if not...i would like to hear from those who would defend this policy....or who see the inconsistencies in the views on blood but the wtbts.. .

  the following is something i read on at another site.

  there is no question that the watchtower's blood policy needlessly kills jw children.

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  I think we need to look at the context of the scripture on blood in the New Testament.
  What was being discussed was circumcision - should new, gentiles have to be circumcised? The answer was no..."I lay no further command upon you other than that..." and then quotes the list of things that matched up with what aliens living with the Jews under the mosaic law would have had to do so as not to cause offence.
  Without ending the sentance he says "...for there are those that want to have the law of moses read..." (quoting from memory here) ie. it's all to do with the mosiac law and those who thought they should have to keep it all (like circumcision).
  There was nothing wrong, for instance, with eating food sacrificed to idols BUT if you were living in a community with Jews then you would not do so as not to offend them.
  Just as today, you may live in a muslim country and wouldn't drink alcohol - not because it was a command that you lived by but because of who you lived with and so as not to cause offence (esp. if you wanted to preach to them).
  It was not some everlasting binding command as surely something so important would have been presented in much clearer language.
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  When should you Disassociate yourself?

  by happytobefree in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been having discussion with my sister (relative), who is an active witness, about writing a letter of disassociation.

  the reason being is that i have not attended the meetings in over a year and it's been 4 years since i have went out in the jw ministry.. i going to try to sum this topic up.

  my sister think that i should not da myself because i have not done any immoral act in her thinking.

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  Yes, I wonder now about the things I heard said about people who left before we did...one sister left her elder husband and he and her elder-father-in-law told the congregation how evil and horrible she was and how she's chosen a life of debauchery etc... (oh, yes - we shouldn't talk to her).
  Thinking about it, I noticed that her Mother and Father have not been at the meetings whenever I did go...maybe they all discovered 'the truth'
  I hope they are happy, they were nice, genuine people.
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  Are you Ex's still Christian?

  by joel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  whassup guys.

  i've spent most of my web time over the last 2 years at another site full of ex-jdubs...i'd say about 50 people post there on occasion...many of that number regularly.. what struck me from the beginning, as i got to know the people posting there was...how many were now atheists...non-believers in god...the bible...pretty much anything they once held sacred as jw's!.

  i dare say...90 some % do not consider themselves christian now!.

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  I think somtimes it whether you believe in an interpretation of the bible rather than the bible itself.
  For instance, I don't believe that the flood account was accurate but was probably based on a large local flood. I believe their is some history which can be believed but it is no more and inspired book by God as any other book supposedly authored by any other God. It just happens to be the one our society has picked up on.
  I think religion is like superstition - used to explain the unexplained. When we learn how things work through science we don't need religion anymore which is why it's always in retreat.
  The mistake a lot of 'christians' make is assuming that they have a monopoly on ethics and morals - you don't have to be a believer in anything to have these (in fact you could just 'believe' in them).
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  Heresy of the Month

  by thinker in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  heresy of the month (from a website).

  don't you hate it when someone you know comes up with some new thing that you have never heard about?

  you sit there in apparent ignorance as they pontificate about the proofs and merits of some idea so far beyond common knowledge that it can only be revealed by people of exceptional enlightenment such as they.

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  Simon

  Roll On Floor Laughing
  There are some others like
  BTW - By the way
  RTFM - Read the flippin' manual
  IMHO - In My Humble Opinion
  They are often used in Chatrooms to save typing.
  I'm sure someone could point you to a list somewhere?
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  Platlets...can WTBTS policy be defended?

  by joel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if this topic has been addressed already...sorry...just ignore it.... if not...i would like to hear from those who would defend this policy....or who see the inconsistencies in the views on blood but the wtbts.. .

  the following is something i read on at another site.

  there is no question that the watchtower's blood policy needlessly kills jw children.

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  I don't really think those things are comparable to the blood issue: although euthenasia and murder both involve taking a life one is not a sub-component of the other.
  The alcohol example is interesting because I remember it being use to illustrate why JWs should not use blood for medical use. The argument went that if we were told to abstain from alcohol, we would not transfuse it into our veins. This was usually followed by much 'ho ho ho-ing' and nodding of heads, weren't we clever, we really won the argument over those medical people.
  However, apart from fact that the two are very different and that transfusing blood is an organ transplant as it is never digested (unless you want to argue that a heart transplant is cannibalism) the real problem is that the WTB&TS has somehow decided, without any further instruction, that parts of blood are allowed.
  It seems to me that you could argue for a total acceptance of blood or a total ban on biblical grounds but there is no way a part-acceptance makes sense and can only be wrong.
  I think it has more to do with lawyers and litigation than law and love.
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  Good News

  by neyank in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  matt.24:14. this good news will be preached in all the earth and then the end will come.. we have all remembered that verse,studied that verse and preached that verse.. the wts uses that verse to keep the jws going door to door.. of course,the wts also says we (everyone on earth)must become a jw in order to have gods favor.. i was having a discussion with a born again christian and he said the good news that is to be preached is about jesus having come and having been put to death for our transgressions.

  so that we can now aproach god on the basis of the sacrifice.

  in the name of jesu christ.. the wts says the good news to be preached is about the kingdom that is to come.. what do you think the good news that jesus spoke of is?.

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  Simon

  Do you think he'll need web developers?
  That is where God is going wrong - he hasn't got a good web-site or had a successful IPO...
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  Platlets...can WTBTS policy be defended?

  by joel in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if this topic has been addressed already...sorry...just ignore it.... if not...i would like to hear from those who would defend this policy....or who see the inconsistencies in the views on blood but the wtbts.. .

  the following is something i read on at another site.

  there is no question that the watchtower's blood policy needlessly kills jw children.

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  But isn't the point that blood is a symbol of life which must be valued.
  But the symbol ends up being valued more than the thing that it represents.
  Also, any claim that the blood command still applies surely means that the command to have children is also still in force.
  If the mosaic law no longer applies does this mean that Gods standards change?