Posts by Simon

i'm out, there is no coming back.. second, i'm on their " do not call list" .. so why now all of a sudden my mailbox is getting bombed 💣 by their memorial invites and letters?.

don't they follow their do not call list?

Simon

"You're invited to our Kingdom Hall ... so we can shun you. Please come!"

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Simon

Reading his old posts here, especially those where he had recently woken up reveal a lot about his character. He legitimately felt he was intellectually superior to this forum and didn't mince words.

He tries to make out that other people's privacy concerns are unfounded paranoia but by contrast its being extra cautious when he does it. Kind of laughable because he signed up with a personal email that identified both him and his wife, so whatever he thinks he's good at ... in reality he really isn't.

Also, we know he subsequently put very little effort into protecting people's identities. So no one should be giving him any personal information as he's not capable of protecting it and may well weaponize it against them if he takes a dislike to someone.

we should call up Lloyd's voicemail (speakpipe) and use those questions

I was tempted to post his "Roy Devon's" smack down story on Reddit

I know some people who will be added to the litigation! LOL

I think his best option now is to (1)admit he screwed up and promise his remaining supporters (and any potential return/future supporters) that he's dedicating himself to getting his life in order. (2)Get back to short, focused videos on current JW news and info --including the rebuttal sushi videos-- and don't do anymore personal stuff. (3)Stop being an asshole. I'm guessing that 1 and 3 just aren't going to happen; he'll probably try to ride it out and won't realize that it's not working until he's well past rock-bottom.

His window of opportunity has passed. As I posted many pages back in this thread he should have made an apology, admitted his failings, promised to do better and then gone away. Now anything he does like that will look like it's insincere not least because it will be.

He still doesn't appear to have grasped that he's made things worse. He made a big public deal about the "lies" told about him and how his team of legal-beagles were going to set things straight.

That attempt seems to have, well, crashed and burned at takeoff. So what are we to make of the "lies" that go undefended?

And it's not just random accusations. These were credible accusations that appeared to fit his own narrative and subsequent confession video.

At some point people are going to wonder ...

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Simon

Why would anybody seek relationship advise from this guy?

Welcome to "Lloyds Lessons on Love" the new channel for relationship advice. Todays questions:

Lloyd, I recently made a slight error of judgement and accidentally slept with prostitutes for 4 years. The question is, should I tell ALL my work colleagues or only the female ones?

Lloyd, how do I explain that prostitution is a perfect fine and acceptable career choice to my young daughters?

Lloyd, my wife won't let me sleep around with other women. Obviously divorce is expensive and I'd have to hire a cleaner plus I live in her parents basement and am pretty comfy with the setup. How much do I need to humilate her publicly before she realizes she's being cruel and unreasonable?

Lloyd, I convinced random people on the internet to give me money to advocate for victims of abuse. Now some of them don't want to pay up anymore and say it's because I spend MY money on things that remind them of the abuse they suffered. How many do I need to shout at and block before they will start paying me again?

Lloyd, I wrote a book describing my past inappropriate behavior with girls and told everyone I can't control myself sexually. Now people are accusing me of inappropriate sexual behavior with girls. I've tried sending pretend law-talking letters to some of them, but they just laughed at me. How big should I pretend my legal and PR team is to try to scare them enough to stop laughing?

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JWs are always the victims... Depending on where you're standing

by neat blue dog in

two wt pictures of an adult child leaving home, one to be a jw, and one to leave the jws.

in one, the caption says his family are 'opposing' him, but in the other he's apparently hurting them.

depends on where you're standing.. .

Simon

Yeah, not so subliminal messaging:

if you leave parents that are against the WTS, then you are escaping them (so wonderful dedicating your unpaid life-hours to the WTS service)

If you leave parents that are pro-JW, then you are disappointing them (so selfish, getting an education / living your own life)

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Simon

I feel sorry for the kids, if they don’t know now what is going on, sure as heck one day they will.

Yeah, at a fundamental level if he thinks it's OK and normal to use prostitutes then surely it's OK for his daughter(s) to be on the other side of that trade? If not, why not? Because I don't believe most people, even the ones trying to excuse it, really genuinely believe it's OK and normal, and what really drives that home is whether they would want their own daughter(s) doing it.

Maybe one of his patreons could ask him that question instead of simply enabling it with their donations.

If the kids don't find out what he did themselves, someone else will, and they will tell them.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Simon

I still find it so bizarre that he was going round telling other people as though it showed how unfair it was:

"... so in summary, I'm telling you, my work colleague, about my wife's cruel refusal to give me permission to cheat on her so that you will appreciate and understand why I've had to sleep with hookers regularly for the last 4 years."

Who does that? Who is so monumentally self-absorbed to be that batshit stupid?

And yes, I said REGULARLY because it's the dictionary definition.

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Let's all bask in the reflected glory of actor Sean Penn ...

by LoveUniHateExams in

"i'll smelt my oscars if the academy awards doesn't let zelensky speak!".

wow, his virtue is so good i can't look at it directly, because it would blind me, lol.. yep, it's this year's oscar's ceremony.. prepare for next-level celebrity virtue signalling .... https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/mar/27/sean-penn-oscars-zelenskiy-ukraine .

Simon

These are entitled, shitty people living dysfunctional lives.

I think they should all be made to fight, in a pit, until only one remains.

Now THAT is how you restore award show ratings. The academy can forward the standard fee.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Simon

I think what you mean is:

"If you wanted to go to Thailand for prostitution you'd likely come up with some other reason for going such as scuba-diving"

One question: which of these would require that you leave your wife at home looking after the kids?

'cause someone could still enjoy the beach with the kids while you go off and dive, right?

"wait with the kids on this street corner dear, I'll be back in 30* seconds" ... not so much.

*for comic effect