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The "Kingdom Proclaimer's Book" Who Wrote This Pile of "Sht"?
by ÁrbolesdeArabia ini got coc in the mail yesterday, i am almost done with the book and after using franz's notes with old magazines, i believe he is not a power hungry, man who i was taught went insane from burn-out!.
i love his updated edition he left us before he passed away, he takes the k.p.
book and destroys the false history witnesses are taught.
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The "Kingdom Proclaimer's Book" Who Wrote This Pile of "Sht"?
by ÁrbolesdeArabia ini got coc in the mail yesterday, i am almost done with the book and after using franz's notes with old magazines, i believe he is not a power hungry, man who i was taught went insane from burn-out!.
i love his updated edition he left us before he passed away, he takes the k.p.
book and destroys the false history witnesses are taught.
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Scriptural Attendance
by NeverKnew ini'm watching a jw who is running himself into the ground.. before his last meeting, he sounded really agitated about his life's schedule.
all i could think of was how the wts was in his way.
2 service meetings a week (one where a presentation of some sort may have to be given).
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nochoice
When I went to Pioneer School the CO told us, "An unbalanced life for the sake of the truth is actually a balanced life."
Good one cobaltcupcake! I agree with the OP NeverKnew and other posters that there is no real scriptural basis. But stuff like what this CO said seems to be the norm now.
When it comes to RECREATION we have to be balanced! When it comes to WORK we have to be balanced!
But when it comes to FEILD SERVICE, MEETINGS or PERSONAL STUDY, NO LIMITS!
And if you happen to be a brother with responsibilities in the hall, although there is the occassional WT paragraph about being balanced, there really are no limits there either!
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A list of Pros and Cons of a Jw marriage compared to a Worldly Marriage
by Unbrainwashed publisher1 injw pro: easily established network of mutual friends con: easily established network of sociopathic busybodies, jw con bedroom laws and one sex position allowed worldly pro: positions in bedroom are only contained by the physical laws of nature.
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nochoice
Any benefit ends up being a double-edged sword, but here goes, from a man's perspective:
Pro JW wife: If she's a born-in, you can pretty much assume she's not been promiscuous in a past life. You can also pretty much assume she does not have an illicit drug past. Most likely no tatoos. She's fairly content with a humble life, and therefore not greedy or too materialistic.
Con JW wife: If she's born-in or converted just the same, you have to assume she's prone to depression simply because the religion causes it, and you won't be able to do anything outside of JW land to help her. Having a humble education, the conversation with her will be limited to JW interests. Having put Jehovah first in her life, coupled with the contentment of a humble life (lack of ambition) she will not be a rock star at anything secular.
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The most logical thing I've heard from an elder
by biometrics inhe said: "<biometrics>, if you can't see 1914, and don't beleive the gb is god's only channel, there's not much point in discussing this any further"..
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nochoice
if you can't see 1914, and don't beleive the GB is God's only channel, there's not much point in discussing this any further
I've actually heard the "GB as God's channel" point more and more the last year from elders discussing upcoming judicial meetings. I am only an MS, but hearing elders talk about publishers who are "struggling in the truth," many elders will just cut to the chase and lay it out - "do they believe that God has an earthly organization directing the work?" If not, they know it's all a moot point and there's no helping the publisher any more. Even if the publisher is not guilty of any wrong doing and is not up for any judicial matters.
These elders have gone through the motions, one judicial meeting after another and they've finally figured it out. If a publisher starts to doubt the orgainization in any way, all is list. Don't even try any more. They won't even attempt to "correct" their thinking on the matter. It never works!
Once a publisher, no matter how faithful, starts to have doubts about the slave, it's only a matter of time until they're DF'd! Helping to "correct" the publisher's thinking will just waste everyone's time and only delay they inevitable. "Satan's already got 'em. Let 'em go!"
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Question for lurkers...
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there is a saying that goes .no man can for any considerable time wear one face to himself and another to the multitude, without getting bewildered as to which one is the true one...so do you find this to be true, when you have to wear a different face when you are among jws ..do you get tired of it all?.
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Question for lurkers...
by Smily kelly in[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:worddocument> <w:view>normal</w:view> <w:zoom>0</w:zoom> <w:trackmoves /> <w:trackformatting /> <w:punctuationkerning /> <w:validateagainstschemas /> <w:saveifxmlinvalid>false</w:saveifxmlinvalid> <w:ignoremixedcontent>false</w:ignoremixedcontent> <w:alwaysshowplaceholdertext>false</w:alwaysshowplaceholdertext> <w:donotpromoteqf /> <w:lidthemeother>en-us</w:lidthemeother> <w:lidthemeasian>x-none</w:lidthemeasian> <w:lidthemecomplexscript>x-none</w:lidthemecomplexscript> <w:compatibility> <w:breakwrappedtables /> <w:snaptogridincell /> <w:wraptextwithpunct /> <w:useasianbreakrules /> <w:dontgrowautofit /> <w:splitpgbreakandparamark /> <w:dontvertaligncellwithsp /> <w:dontbreakconstrainedforcedtables /> <w:dontvertalignintxbx /> <w:word11kerningpairs /> <w:cachedcolbalance /> </w:compatibility> <m:mathpr> <m:mathfont m:val="cambria math" /> <m:brkbin m:val="before" /> <m:brkbinsub m:val=" " /> <m:smallfrac m:val="off" /> <m:dispdef /> <m:lmargin m:val="0" /> <m:rmargin m:val="0" /> <m:defjc m:val="centergroup" /> <m:wrapindent m:val="1440" /> <m:intlim m:val="subsup" /> <m:narylim m:val="undovr" /> </m:mathpr></w:worddocument> </xml><!
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there is a saying that goes .no man can for any considerable time wear one face to himself and another to the multitude, without getting bewildered as to which one is the true one...so do you find this to be true, when you have to wear a different face when you are among jws ..do you get tired of it all?.
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nochoice
I am not quite sure if I am a lurker. What is the definition of a "lurker" on JWN? I thought it was someone who was apostate-curious. Someone who was "in" but having doubts. They haven't made any decisons yet on whether they're in "the Truth." For me, and I think for the people you are questioning, I am "out" mentally, but "in" physically by neccessity. There's no question what I believe. And YES, I can tell you that it takes its toll! I don't live a double life to the degree that I am living immorally, doing drugs, and cursing in private, while appearing spiritual at the KH. I think THAT would be very difficult to maintain and would be very confusing for me. Fortunately for me, my double life is what I believe versus what I preach and teach. Strictly hypocrital! It's hard enough just playing like I believe the stuff taught in the KH. Doing talks and being out in service when I know it's a waste of time but acting like I am zealous. And yes, that feeling when I am giving a prayer is terrible because I am only helping to perpetuate the lie!
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ipads and laptops
by biometrics inmy wife went to the sunday meeting and said nearly everyone had ipads (tablet pcs) or laptops during the watchtower study with downloaded watctowers.. if they provide free wi-fi and coffee, i might start going again..
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More control over the Flock?!
by DATA-DOG inservice group.
if your group overseer has.
5 although the congregation book study.
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nochoice
Feild service attendance on Saturday morning at the Group Homes is very, very low. Our Brothers have been talking about combining some groups so the attendance could double and there be more support. Where there are 15-20 publishers assigned to a group, there may be 2 or 3 publishers showing up along with the Group Overseer and his wife. Combing groups would increase that to 2 car groups at least!
If other halls are suffering like we are, the KM is meant to increase Group Home support. We have publishers that go out a couple times during the week, but skip Saturday Group Home service! The reason is simple - you don't want to work with the people that do show up at the home! It gets old. These tend to be the extra needy depressed publishers that make a sucky morning even worse.
During the week, you can pick your partners a bit easier because more people are there. This is not to say that more publishers go out Monday-Friday, it's just that when they're all at the hall instead of being divided up in 6 or 7 groups, it only takes 2 out per group to make 14 freinds out. That's much better odds to have a good partner or car group than the Saturday Group Home meeting for field service!
And if you look at all the group lists, you'll find that the Brothers do a good job of spreading around the lame, depressed, annoying publishers. There is no group that has all solid, fun, stable publishers. And for some reason, lately they've been asking us to stick to our Groups even on the First Saturday of the Month when we all meet at the hall! What? W've got 40 people to choose from and we have to go seek out the same lame people we're stuck with the other 4 Saturdays?
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Why do JW read more into something than what you mean or state?
by sinis inlong story short wifes friend was preaching non stop during an emotional time for my wife.
emailed friend and kindly asked to stop preaching but still be a friend.
friend no longer contacts wife and wife is sad.
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nochoice
Ditto on prior comments about conditional love. But I think it's even worse than this woman not wanting to befreind your wife unless she's into the Truth. Your wife is a POTENTIAL STUDY! That's huge! That's everything! Take that away, i.e, "you can talk to my wife just don't preach," and there's nothing left for this witness girl!
It's not even the witness girl's fault. She's been trained to look for these opportunities. We're taught to go back to people who don't want our message time and again because thier circumstances may change. Interpret "circumstances may change" as tragedy will befall them. A loved one dies, or suddently they lose thier job. I've been in a car group many a time where publishers come back from a door elated that a call is suffering something new and different. Whatever it is, there's a brochure for that or a chapter in the Teach Book!