Posts by simplesally

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Telephone call with elder today

by simplesally in

i got a call today on my cell phone today from an elder (i am disfellowshipped)... said i hadn't been seen in a while at the kh.

i said yes, thats true, that the most recent incident regarding his daughter's treatment of my daughter has caused me to not come.

it was the last straw.. "are you going to take it out on jehovah?

simplesally

To be honest, I have not been praying in a long while....... too upset and not enough faith right now.

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A Heads Up On Potential Heads Off...

by hillary_step in

jw
friends

hello,.

some of you who have 'drifted' from the wts may not be aware than in recent months the wts has required co's to report the names and circumstances of those who have become 'inactive'.

the elders are required to visit each one and report to the co on his next visit as to where they are, who they are and why they have gone 'inactive'.. as ever there may be mixed motives with this arrangement, but it as well to be prepared.. best regards - hs

simplesally

Well, I would definately ask a question regarding blood. One that was put to me recently that I could not answer.

If blood is the SYMBOL of life, why would you elevate above the thing itself? Why is blood elevated above the life of a person. By giving more honor to the blood and not accepting the transfusion, you lose your life. Yes, all life belongs to Jehovah, and he can give it back, but still you are going to lose your life now.

And another thing....since when is taking medicine considered "feeding" on it? I don't "feed" on penicillan even tho I have to take it 10 days in a row, 3 times in a day if I have an infection. If I need a blood transfusion, I would not be feeding on it regularly but only briefly, for medicinal purposes. I understand the NOT EATING it.....eg blood sausage, blood puddings, etc.

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I've been shunned from my sister's wedding

by Quotes in

the following is the contents of a hand-written letter i just received from my (21 year old) sister, who is getting married may 18. for some reason, i thought that she would let love and compassion be stronger than wt programming.

but i was wrong.

yeah, it sucks.. *** my question for the board ***.

simplesally

I hope you go. Its too bad you won't be invited to the reception. And believe me, you will cry at the wedding, BIG TIME.

When I came into the truth, my sister did the opposite to me. I was to go to the Catholic wedding but had no seat at the assigned seating reception. I was not asked to be in the pictures. She didn't speak to me for a whole year. All because I became a witness.

It really changed our whole relationship and not being in the pictures was really a slap in the face.

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A paid clergy class?

by taoInitiate in

"expenses are manageable, as there are no paid clergy and the meeting places are modest.

" quote from wt website.. http://www.jw-media.org/beliefs/beliefsfaq.htm.

this quote is rather interesting..."no paid clergy".... but notice what it doesn't say...yes there is a clergy, just that they're not paid!.

simplesally

I think that the CO's have a paid for apartment, car, groceries and expenses. Not to mention regular gifts from the publishers. Free trips around to various spots for vacation or to give special talks.

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Telephone call with elder today

by simplesally in

i got a call today on my cell phone today from an elder (i am disfellowshipped)... said i hadn't been seen in a while at the kh.

i said yes, thats true, that the most recent incident regarding his daughter's treatment of my daughter has caused me to not come.

it was the last straw.. "are you going to take it out on jehovah?

simplesally

I do wish that the elder who made the remarks would not only apologize to me, but correct his statements from the platform. It was more than embarrassing to sit there and have him say that df'd people are wicked, that they are UNWILLING TO CHANGE and that df'd people are unrepentant and that is the only reason they are df'd. It was such a crock I wanted to walk out.

Not only did he know it was not true that I was unwilling to change, the offense had happened years ago and was not repeated!!

I am reading a book that someone sent me, "A Crisis of Conscience" and it is very good. One thing that I have come across in the book is the part about the hemophiliacs and blood. Apparently they can take blood to coagulate theirs and the reason was because they aren't feeding on it. Never dawned on me before that even a blood transfusion is not feeding on blood, but its like medicine. When I went to a seminar on blood it was revealed even a blood patch (which is your blood removed from you and then components taken out and then put back in you) was ok because it was considered a medical treatment. But still I didn't understand how this correspended to "abstaining from blood" ..... it is out of harmony. Either its ok to take it or its not. But not this wishy washy stand. I think a blood transfusion is way different than eating blood sausage or blood pudding.

So, yes I am researching.

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Pediphilia not tolerated in the ORGANIZATION!!!

by D wiltshire in

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friends

here's a nice hunk of do do to read.

http://communities.msn.co.uk/justjws/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&id_message=488&lastmodified=4675362039540683157.

join the watchtower or you will die.. only jehovah's witnesses have the truth all other religions evil and from the devil.. you must beleive the watchtower or you're going to die a painful death forever, isn't that really good news?.

simplesally

I thought they taught that there was no tormenting after death??//

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Telephone call with elder today

by simplesally in

i got a call today on my cell phone today from an elder (i am disfellowshipped)... said i hadn't been seen in a while at the kh.

i said yes, thats true, that the most recent incident regarding his daughter's treatment of my daughter has caused me to not come.

it was the last straw.. "are you going to take it out on jehovah?

simplesally

I am, I am. I am on page 98!

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Is homosexuality wrong?

by forgetmenot in

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friends

i know that the dub's view is that it is totally wrong.

i live in an area where the majority of people think it is wrong.

i don't think it is wrong (but i am not a homosexual).

simplesally

"What's mon couer mean?" Did he just ask me out?

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Telephone call with elder today

by simplesally in

i got a call today on my cell phone today from an elder (i am disfellowshipped)... said i hadn't been seen in a while at the kh.

i said yes, thats true, that the most recent incident regarding his daughter's treatment of my daughter has caused me to not come.

it was the last straw.. "are you going to take it out on jehovah?

simplesally

I don't know what you mean by "having some backbone".....!

I have been thru a ton of crap! If you think that I don't know what it means to have courage then you don't know what I have been thru. Well, OK, you don't cuz I have not told you and I think that I shall choose not to uncover my whole life here.

I do know that I am having a "crisis of conscience" here. I am confused because I converted to JW's and now am good for no other religion. I believe in all the tenets but not this df'ing thing. I am also leaning towards b=days in a moderated way.

I am so confused because I have on one hand seen what cruelty can be effected in the name of Jehovah and seen kindnesses in the same name. I see a complete disregard of humanity and then I see an elder who shows great interest.

I see a husband who grew up in the truth who shows NO evidence of bible teachings affecting his life and yet I feel that no matter what I still believe in the teachings of the bible.

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Telephone call with elder today

by simplesally in

i got a call today on my cell phone today from an elder (i am disfellowshipped)... said i hadn't been seen in a while at the kh.

i said yes, thats true, that the most recent incident regarding his daughter's treatment of my daughter has caused me to not come.

it was the last straw.. "are you going to take it out on jehovah?

simplesally

I got a call today on my cell phone today from an elder (I am disfellowshipped)... said I hadn't been seen in a while at the KH. I said yes, thats true, that the most recent incident regarding his daughter's treatment of my daughter has caused me to not come. It was the last straw.

"Are you going to take it out on Jehovah?" was the question.

I said, "NO, but I am trying to rectify how people who claim to be JW's can do what they did. I am trying to rectify the fact that despite their behavior YOU can still call them JW's."

I said, "At the last meetings I attended I heard that df'd people were: wicked, unrepentent and unwilling to change their course of life" I heard remarks of this sort over and over again in the last months that I recently attended. I told him I can't sit there and hear this over and over and yet it not be true.

I told him that I was repentant, I was not continuing to sin. I still didn't understand why I was being df'd. I said Yes, I understand to whom much is given, much is expected. And on those terms I can accept it. On the other terms, the local needs, that df'd ones are wicked, unrepentent and unwilling to change, that I can't accept.

That when I attended all the meetings and cried my heart out and when I finally couldn't go anymore because I was too embarrassed to go to the bathroom to get more kleenex....thats when I know what they did is wrong. That I have not continued in a bad course, I just failed to tell for 2 years.

He admitted.........yes those remarks are wrong, but what am I going to do?