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  News Follow-up on 2002 Beheading and Kidnap of Jehovah's Witnesses.

  by Balaamsass in

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  witnesses fail to identify abu sayyaf suspectsphilippine daily inquirer.

  4:41 am | tuesday, december 4th, 2012 <span class="postauthor">posted by <a href="http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/author/besguerra" title="posts by besguerra" rel="author">besguerra</a></span>0665start share this /metas suspected abu sayyaf terrorists wrongly arrested for the 2002 abduction of several jehovahs witnesses in patikul, sulu, may be released before the end of the month.. twenty-one accused claiming innocence were presented at a hearing on the reinvestigation of the kidnap-for-ransom case conducted by the department of justice on monday, but eight of them were pointed to by two witnessesone of them a former hostageas being members of the terror group.. it was the third reinvestigation of the aug. 20, 2002, abduction of four women and two men who were members of the religious group in patikul.. the two men were beheaded by the abu sayyaf while the women were rescued by police and the military.. at the start of the hearing, senior assistant state prosecutor peter ong said it was the prosecutors themselves who pushed for the reinvestigation.. we noticed, for instance, two persons being arrested under one name and we noticed an injustice there, said ong, adding that the pasig rtc ordered them to conduct the reinvestigation in 60 days.. all 21 abu sayyaf members who were handcuffed were made to line up for identification in batches to face two of the three witnesses who were brought in, their faces concealed.. of the 21, the eight who were pointed to by two witnesses denied the accusation.. one of the eight, julhassan a. jaani ybanez, was identified by the female witness as the one who beheaded her husband.. but ybanez denied this, saying he was an imam (muslim leader) and an assistant of col. akho san juan, the military chaplain of the western mindanao command.

  he said he was arrested in 2006. christine o. avendano.

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  I guess we won't be hearing about how God answered their prayers in next weeks watchtower.
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  more wifey issues. she seen my phone and this web site was op

  by unstopableravens in

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  my son grab my phone and wifey seen this site.

  on for a second she was mad.

  led into arugment today.

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  Ravens: Are you going to the memorial next year? Why did you go last year? I guess she guilt tripped you...
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  The website rating service WOT is being used to sandbag TTATT sites

  by RayPublisher in

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  i recently sent an email about this to a couple dozen of my contacts.

  (it is included below) has anyone else encountered this problem with wot?.

  .. wot (web of trust) is an excellent plug-in that i have used with google chrome for quite some time, but have noticed that many of the sites run by dissidents and former jws to expose the lies and hypocrisy of the wt automatically have "dangerous" reputations according to wot, and my browser will actually pop up a warning not to visit the site when trying to go there.

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  Please EVERYONE vote!
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  The website rating service WOT is being used to sandbag TTATT sites

  by RayPublisher in

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  i recently sent an email about this to a couple dozen of my contacts.

  (it is included below) has anyone else encountered this problem with wot?.

  .. wot (web of trust) is an excellent plug-in that i have used with google chrome for quite some time, but have noticed that many of the sites run by dissidents and former jws to expose the lies and hypocrisy of the wt automatically have "dangerous" reputations according to wot, and my browser will actually pop up a warning not to visit the site when trying to go there.

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  Can I rate the site multiple times? You get all A's in my book, Eric. :)
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  non believers what if your wrong ?

  by unstopableravens in

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  i do not wish to debate anything here like i have said in the past i have much respect for most on this forum (believers and non believers) i am simply wondering if the atheist or non god believers every worry about what if your wrong?

  it seems that many who were jw for so many years attach jehovah/yahweh with the watchtower and since the wt is wrong than god does not exist.

  i ask this question only because i care about people and salvation thats why i want to help as many as possable come out of this cult,and since i truly believe in god i dont know what is in the cinscience of those who dont.

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  people are still posting on this? lol
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  Where Are You From?

  by finallysomepride in

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  alot of members don't have a flag or country name beside their user name, and well frequently one doesn't know where that particular person is from, tell us your country, state, county or what ever you feel like giving out.

  if you are going to post please at least devulge your country.. me, i'm originally from taranaki, new zealand via auckland.

  for the most of this decade i have been living & working in brisbane, queensland, australia.. .

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  I'm from Virginia.
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  any ex witness from maryland ?

  by unstopableravens in

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  hi i have not been here for a while i did not have a working pc how has everyone been ?

  just wondering if there a re any ex jws from maryland.

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  Hey Londo, I didn't know you were in Bmore?
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  The 1919 Date

  by turtleturtle in

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  can someone please give me a neutral explanation of the date 1919?

  can the wt prove 1919 from the bible?

  what about this quote?

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  lol!!
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  nobody cares

  by Honeybucket in

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  as joyous as this is... what if noone cared wether you stayed or left.

  perhaps they viewed you as annoying, or a pain.

  maybe your not in their clique.

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  Most people really don't care. 99.5% I'd say. And you know what? I don't care if these people ever find out the truth about the truth. I'd rather let them rot in their chair until "the end". They were never there for me and I don't care if they keep living a lie. They are fare-weather friends, conditional people in your life that will leave you for not even knowing why you stopped, left, got dfd or whatever. I hope most of them never find out the truth.
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  The wise admit that they know nothing

  by yadda yadda 2 in

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  when asked who was the wisest man, socrates said, "i know one thing, that i know nothing".. i can definitely say that what i thought was immutable truth 25 years ago is not what i now believe.

  the older i get, the less certain i am of what is definitely true.. ageing and life experience teaches us in the end that we really know nothing.

  life is very humbling.. do you agree with socrates?.

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  I absolutely agree!!!

  The one thing I can be certain of is that I don't know anything (especially what I thought was truth).