Posts by SixofNine

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You heard it here second...

by SixofNine in

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page 29 of the wt publication, "true peace and security, how can you find it?

" (circa 1986- orange book- just to bring back a rich visual memory for you oldtimers).

sex before marriage, with one or more partners...will henceforth be considered morally acceptable.. .

SixofNine

hey, c'mon folks, I did say

if they can do it, we can do it

Mommy, I love estate sales. Hey, lets get up early saturday, get dressed for service (just to see if I still look right in a suite), skip service, have breakfast and go estate sale-ing! I haven't gone since my divorce. (so if in the middle of looking through someones book collection, I spontaneously start crying, you'll know why, lol).

PS. Wendy, this post has all the essential elements of truth....the quote is from the book, and I do have a motherload of old publications, many of them in place-able condition.

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You heard it here second...

by SixofNine in

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page 29 of the wt publication, "true peace and security, how can you find it?

" (circa 1986- orange book- just to bring back a rich visual memory for you oldtimers).

sex before marriage, with one or more partners...will henceforth be considered morally acceptable.. .

SixofNine

I came across the motherload in my garage of the family home tonight.

boxes of old pubs. a box of 192 page books in placeable condition!

people would only look at you slightly funnier now with these books, than they did back in 1976.

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You heard it here second...

by SixofNine in

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page 29 of the wt publication, "true peace and security, how can you find it?

" (circa 1986- orange book- just to bring back a rich visual memory for you oldtimers).

sex before marriage, with one or more partners...will henceforth be considered morally acceptable.. .

SixofNine

Page 29 of the WT publication, "True Peace and Security, How Can You Find It?" (circa 1986- orange book- just to bring back a rich visual memory for you oldtimers)

Sex before marriage, with one or more partners...will henceforth be considered morally acceptable.

hey, if they can do it, we can do it. lol

PS how did they manage to be so incredibly consistent in making those books the exact same physical size???? it's as if the consistency (god is after all, a god of order) and packaging considerations took precedence over the content.

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What do you like about K Halls?

by philo in

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hi folks.

what do you like about kingdom halls?.

i am not talking about the software i.e., the people, the pure language, the music, the smell of lavender as the toilet door swings to, or the obedient rustle of bible pages.

SixofNine

...and a fine witness was given, right sister? ;)

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R U disfellowshipped 2

by DFshipped in

hi people.

i am a df'd person hoping to return to the fold.

i am not critical of the decision to df me nor of the loving organization i believe to be in the palm of jesus hand.. i would find it most encouraging to hear from others who feel the same and would like to "hold hands" on the way back.. this board is hailed as a supportive respectful place so if you do not fit this description may i ask you to move on and not hinder the participants here in following their god given right to pursue their goal.

SixofNine

Well DF, aren't all df'd persons bad association?

I was really just yanking your chain in this thread. I don't believe the organization really has any authority over you or anyone else beyond what you worshipfully give them. I don't worship at that alter anymore, and while I know you will argue that you don't either, I know I left because I could see that I did.

However, I am far past that now, and that raises another question for me. I'm not being at all flippant here, I really am struggling with this a bit. When you list all those bad things that happened under the nose of Jehovah, and even indicated that he gave "permission" (I know you probably did not really mean "permission", but you did say it), doesn't it give you pause as to why you believe the bible is inspired of Jehovah in the first place?

I'm very serious here. For me, I wasn't able to answer much beyond "just because". As if it is God's word just because my mommy and daddy and everyone I have really had any meaningful contact with in my life believe it to be so. But a 34 year old man in China would not answer the same.

So now, I have been searching for a reason to believe the Bible, odd as that sounds, even to my ears. The societies publications and video that talk about it, basically give evidence from the bible itself, ie, the bible says it is inspired- and we all believe it, so you should to.

That was good enough for me for a long time, but the truth is I just didn't let myself think deeply about it.

So really, I am curious, what do you think about it. Answer me via e-mail if you are not comfortable answering here. Thanks for your thoughts.

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R U disfellowshipped 2

by DFshipped in

hi people.

i am a df'd person hoping to return to the fold.

i am not critical of the decision to df me nor of the loving organization i believe to be in the palm of jesus hand.. i would find it most encouraging to hear from others who feel the same and would like to "hold hands" on the way back.. this board is hailed as a supportive respectful place so if you do not fit this description may i ask you to move on and not hinder the participants here in following their god given right to pursue their goal.

SixofNine

I could see where they would want to take further action if disfellowshiped people were organizing to foment trouble, but that is not DF's intent. He's looking for people that can help each other get back into the Oganization.

That may well be his intentions, but remember, people are df'd for being willful, unrepentant sinners, nothing else. I repeat, NOTHING else. There is no such thing as a df'ing offence, only repentence or the lack thereof is reason for judicial decisions. So, if someone wants to re-enter the congregation, engaging in purposefully bad association is NOT ever going to be appropriate. After all, how would the elders be told to view a cong member who knowingly hangs out with df'd persons?

As far as the drivers license thing goes, don't quote me on this, but I think that.....uhhmmm.....

damn! see this is where my stories always fall apart. For the life of me I can't make up anything that would sound even remotely reasonable.

oh well, had you going for a minute there didn't I?

Edited by - SixofNine on 18 February 2001 21:31:14

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R U disfellowshipped 2

by DFshipped in

hi people.

i am a df'd person hoping to return to the fold.

i am not critical of the decision to df me nor of the loving organization i believe to be in the palm of jesus hand.. i would find it most encouraging to hear from others who feel the same and would like to "hold hands" on the way back.. this board is hailed as a supportive respectful place so if you do not fit this description may i ask you to move on and not hinder the participants here in following their god given right to pursue their goal.

SixofNine

Funny this should come up. I just recieved the latest issue of the WT yesterday. It seems that in situations such as this, the society has a new procedure akin to RE-disfellowshipping disfellowshipped people who do not 'toe the line', as it were. I believe they called it "marked for life" or "marked for destruction", something like that.

The specific scenario mentioned was where two (or more) df'd people began brazenly associating with one another. The elders are advised of certain 'privileges' that could be further removed (even resorting to civil action if need be, ie; drivers license suspension, revocation of family ties, etc.) and in some countries, it seems that actual physical punishment may be warranted and used! Singapore comes to mind.

Unbelievable isn't it?

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Fred,the Preaching Work,+the WTS 'batting slump'

by ISP in

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the preaching work ,fred and the wts 'batting slump'.

in a thread below, fred, in a quite daniellesque manner, sought to detract from ray franz's credibility because ray did not promote the wts' preaching activity.. firstly i have to say that fred is not in the easiest position.

he is a wts apologist of sorts and whereas he might have some support on some other boards like great crowd or wol where his non-sequitors would go quite undetected, he finds it hard going here.

SixofNine

we have talked about going in "field service" on a Saturday morning one day, just to find a car group of JWs who we could discuss religion with...I think that would be a fun way to spend a Saturday morning...lets plan on actually doing it this summer.

ooo! ooo! I wanna come! We can give "unasigned territory" a whole new meaning.

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Hello all / Test / Thankyou!

by unclebruce in

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g'day folks,.

just testing - nothing to write home about.

i have heard you guys are having a good time, i've been skimming through the posts - some very interesting stuff.

SixofNine

Hi Unc,

On UBB boards, there are really only Topics, and Replies. When you hit reply, you are in essence replying to the first post in the discussion (topic). All new replies go in under the last reply posted.

Clear as mud?

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New Blood Policy or A Lie ?

by thinker in

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{sworn testimony submitted by the society in evidence before the european human rights commission jul 3 1997}.

the applicant association (watchtower society) was represented by mm.

alain garay, philippe.

SixofNine

Trevor,

I liked your post very much, especially the last paragraph. May I add a couple of words to make the contrast stand out even a bit more?

"More critically for the Society, these changes further undermine their claim that they have been appointed by holy spirit to dispense accurate knowledge which they insist the members eternal lives depend upon. By making the Bible's comments on the ceremonial and symbolic use of animal blood into a law regarding the life-saving use of human blood, have they carried out their "duty of care" towards the present lives of their members?"

Good stuff!

also..

" Blood is not to be stored: it is to be poured out - returned to God, as it were. Granted, the Mosaic law is not in force now. Nevertheless, Jehovah's Witnesses respect the principles God included in it, and they are determined to 'abstain from blood.' Hence we do not donate blood, nor do we store for transfusion our blood that should be 'poured out.' That practice conflicts with God's law." (Watchtower - 15 October 2000 - Pages 30,31)

So which is it, you *$ing puppeteers, the actions, or the principles????