Posts by notsurewheretogo

They believe one thing...that they are God's Organisation...everything else doesn't matter...they don't do their research to prove it to themselves...

They are Captives to a Concept...that concept that they are God's Organisation.

Ray Franz spoke about in his books and Don Cameron wrote a book called Captives to a Concept...it explains perfectly that with beliving this one concept nothing else matters...its entrenched in their minds and they simply cannot see thier obvious wrongs/mistakes...or they ignore them because...in their minds...God is using them.

If you understand that point then you understand the all the stuff they write comes from the perspective that everyone on the GB 100% believes they are chosen by God...

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one eighth of jw's are regular pioneers?

by Truthexplorer in

that's what a brother said during his public talk.

i mentioned this to the missus afterwards and asked if i heard right?

seems quite a high number!.

notsurewheretogo

Counrties like Mexico, Japan, South Korea have high pioneers rate...South Korea in fact is like 50% of all publishers are pioneers...thus the big countries that have high pioneers helps the rest of countries who do not...

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Not All Anointed Ones Alive Today Are Part Of 'This generation'

by OwnAccord in

where do they come up with this stuff?.

this is a topic on 'the other site'.

i actually called our bethel ny branch and talked to a brother on the writing committee, at writing correspondence.

notsurewheretogo

This is utter nonsense and I'm not talking about the explanation...it is nonsense in that this is what the GB believe...I'm not sure where this info comes from but it is utter nonsense that anyone on the Writing Committee or an anointed JW would provide such an explanation...

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Memorial 2014: Wrong date?

by AnnOMaly in

this was meant to have nice inserted pictures and tidy hyperlinks but the forum's being glitchy today.

so unfortunately it's going to be a messy post where you're going to have to exercise your tapping fingers and click on the links to the pics to see what i'm referring to.

sorry about that.. in the article recently studied "do this in remembrance of me" (w13 12/15), there is a box on p. 23 giving the date of this year's memorial and how that date is arrived at.. http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2013926.

notsurewheretogo

They just explained why they choose the wrong date a few Study issues ago...my wife asked me what the study article meant and I must admit it was quite puzzling...

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New Light to be released on the 100th anniversary of 1914

by smiddy in

with further study and meditation , the holy spirit has guided the governing body to the evident reality that the year 1914 was a symbolic enthronement of jesus christ to his heavenly kingship .

jehovahs witnesses worlwide rejoice at this new understanding , empowering them to be even more determined to spread these pearls of truth to those moaning and groaning in this wicked system of things.

rom.8:22. some have wondered , even had doubts about the ever increasing numbers who now seem to be partaking of the wine and emblems at the lords evening meal ( memmorial ) celebration held annually .. we are pleased to announce that this too has been clarified by holy spirit , with study and meditation , and we can now announce that the 144000 is in fact a symbolic number and not to be taken as a literal number as previously thought .. we , the g.b.

notsurewheretogo

I didn't see the word "evidently" in there...thus it's fake!

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Who will run the "earthly organization" after GB is raptured?

by bruh2012 in

i guess the gb feels after they are raptured that their work is done since the new scrolls will be open by yhwh.. oh wait my bad - it will be by the local elders since they said a few wt studies ago that in so many words you better listen to the elders whether it makes sense or not.. if power and the use of the internet after armaggdon will pretty much be dead since those who operate it will be gone-.

notsurewheretogo

Supposedly all JW's in positions of administrative power for the WTBTS are now the Other Sheep and will continue to do so on the other side...

And of course the 144,000...from heaven...will guide them...

CUCKOO!!!!

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WTS governing body changes - how have all those claiming to be anointed been exposed as liars?

by tootired2care in

in juan viejo2s recent thread about district overseer and other changes coming this bit was quite intriguing to me.. the governing body will be expanded to 12 to better match the biblical magic number of apostles, tribes of israel, etc.

that will also reset the 'magic number' to 8 needed to get a majority vote to make a doctrinal change.... one of my friends suggests that "annointed" will become synomous with "appointed.

" if a brother is "appointed" to the governing body, then the logic is that he has automatically been "annointed" by holy spirit and would therefore be considered to be part of the 144k.. .

notsurewheretogo

I heard they tried some members of the Other Sheep on the GB about ten years ago, when they seperated the GB away from the legal entities...and I heard they reported that it "just didn't work"...

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WTS governing body changes - how have all those claiming to be anointed been exposed as liars?

by tootired2care in

in juan viejo2s recent thread about district overseer and other changes coming this bit was quite intriguing to me.. the governing body will be expanded to 12 to better match the biblical magic number of apostles, tribes of israel, etc.

that will also reset the 'magic number' to 8 needed to get a majority vote to make a doctrinal change.... one of my friends suggests that "annointed" will become synomous with "appointed.

" if a brother is "appointed" to the governing body, then the logic is that he has automatically been "annointed" by holy spirit and would therefore be considered to be part of the 144k.. .

notsurewheretogo

Ah I see...I understood that they would be selecting from a pool of JW's who were known to be anointed...

But I see the point...they would need to say however...scripturally...that the GB do decide who is anointed...before they could do this...

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May 2014 Watchtower Study Article Are You Moving Ahead With Jehovahs Organization?

by objectivetruth in

if jehovah resurrects the inhabitants of sodom & gomorrah, to give them a fair chance to life.. he truly is love!.

please see the wt and related articles in the resurrection of sodom & gomorrah : 1879 resurrection confirmed : = yes "let me give you an illustration that will be forcible: the sodomites.

surely if we find their restitution mentioned you will be satisfied.

notsurewheretogo

Cracking thread...thank to the OP for the list of YES and NO points...