Posts by notsurewheretogo

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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

by notsurewheretogo in

the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

notsurewheretogo

Cracking list of references @punkofnice

@Tenacious...the thing is, they do not "receive" any light at all...according to what they now say in the Feb WT...they just "guess".

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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

by notsurewheretogo in

the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

When I said "the anointed on the earth" I was meaning that to explain the increasing number on earth today they may eventually just say that those in the HQ that are on the GB are the only ones anointed...in line with the recent change that the FDS are only those at the HQ.

I think they may change just who the anointed or...not get rid of the idea. But either way, any change would be major...one they can now justify if they can now err in doctrinal matters!

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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

by notsurewheretogo in

the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

notsurewheretogo

So what was the motive for them to specifically say they err in doctrine?

Larger amounts of dubs being miffed at all the recent changes? Sort that by saying the GB err sometimes.

Big changes coming in core doctrine? Again sort that by saying the GB err sometimes.

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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

by notsurewheretogo in

the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

notsurewheretogo

But there is a difference in saying we are not infallible and "we can err in doctrine" though is there not?

The GB may have said in the past they are infallible but that doesn't reference doctrines...it could mean they are just imperfect men and therefore have the same imperfections as us.

Yet, this time they actually say they CAN err in doctrines. To me, I see that as fundamentally different and pretty significant...but then that is just my feeling on it.

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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

by notsurewheretogo in

the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

notsurewheretogo

@cobweb as I say...I have never seen them say in print "we can err". The 1981 apology written by Ray Franz on the 1975 isn't really an apology and quite frankly doesn't really admit they can err.

As I've said they have said in the past they are not inspired but they have never said "we can make mistakes" as far as I can recall.

To be so direct in saying this, I think, opens up the way for them to change major doctrines.

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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

by notsurewheretogo in

the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

notsurewheretogo

Really, I've never seen it in print that they can err in doctrinal matters...they have said in the past they are not inspired but they have said they are spirit-directed...so to say they are NOT inspired AND infallible is pretty big as you cannot be spirit-directed IF you are wrong.

Thus, I see what they say in this magazine as a bit different to past sayings about being "inspired".

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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

by notsurewheretogo in

the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

notsurewheretogo

The statement in the article "Who is Leading Gods People Today?" in the Feb 17th study edition of the WT is VERY interesting.

It states: ""The G.B. is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in Doctrinal matters...."

Smiddy started a topic on that and it is an interesting thread.

But thinking about it, why would they ever say this? As a faded person for the last 4 years I have been using this very reason as to why I am faded because I conclude that the GB are not in any way directed or inspired.

The reason why they must be saying this is to prepare the dubs for MAJOR doctrinal changes. We have all said in the past that the doctrines of 1914, the anointed on earth, disfellowshipping, blood etc have to change at some point in the near future.

Thus, has the groundwork now been laird for this? If they can say they err on doctrines and then 6 months later change the fact that 1914 is not a special biblical date then the dubs will not be so upset.

I am seriously considering going to the meeting when they discuss the above WT to see how people react to it.

It is a game changer, if they can say that, and then change major doctrines AND STILL get them to believe it is "the truth" then the GB will be very happy with that.

Thoughts?

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If the GB changed a major teaching, would all witnesses just go along with it?

by stuckinarut2 in

so if the gb changed its "bible based beliefs" on some teaching, would witnesses all of a sudden change their individual beliefs too?.

witnesses like to claim that "their bible trained hearts and minds" make them believe as they do, but we know that the reality is that all witnesses hold their "deep seated beliefs" according to what they have been told to believe.. so what would cause the average witness to question those that dictate their "personal convictions"??.

thoughts?.

notsurewheretogo

They already have.

Literal generation was a major doctrine.

Changed to overlapping...dubs lapped it up.

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"The G.B. is neither inspired nor infallible"

by smiddy in

that admission in the feb.17 ,study edition of the watchtower , " who is leading gods people today ?

" "the governing body is neither inspired, nor infallible, therefore it (they/we) can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction .".

have the many jehovahs witnesses past and present who have lost their lives by refusing blood transfusions due to the prohibition on blood tranfusions by jehovahs witnesses really got the sense of this statement ?.

notsurewheretogo

So they have just admitted 8 million people are "following men"?

Does the bible say anything against that? :)

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So does the Almighty God Jehovah make mistakes, or is the society NOT his spokesman?

by stuckinarut2 in

the society claims to be jehovah gods sole channel on earth - his spokesman.. if any witness disagrees with this claim, they are branded as an apostate and punished.. but the society has made countless errors over the century, and repeatedly changed doctrines and beliefs.

not to mention the appalling foundation teachings of the organisation's teachings!

so a simple question: is god making msistakes and getting things wrong, or is this proof that the society is not guided by god?.

notsurewheretogo

Well they admit in the Feb study mag that the GB err with doctrines and are not inspired.