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  Is the watchtower preparing the rank and file here?

  by Thisismein1972 in

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  2. beliefs

  http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/28736-that-most-beautiful-of-2015-videos-is-now-live/.

  above is a link (if you can stomach it) from jwtalk.

  have a look at the comments.

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  notsurewheretogo

  Really don't get how you think they are not going to believe in a paradise earth from those comments.

  Paradise earth is the carrot that keeps them all going.
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  Where Does It Say JWs Can't Read Pubs By Other Churches?

  by Cold Steel in

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  2. beliefs

  can jws read publications by other churches?

  or by atheists?

  i've always heard these are apostate materials.

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  notsurewheretogo

  Quit touching the unclean thing! Babylon the Great...the world empire of false religion! That is what they use.
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  If You Could Ask the GB Or One Of Its Members...

  by Cold Steel in

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  2. beliefs

  ...one question about anything and get a straight answer, what would it be?

  historical, philosophical, theological, eschatological, anything.

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  notsurewheretogo

  • If God directs you, then why does God have bad days where he makes mistakes?
    Because either God gets things wrong, or you don't speak for God...

    
    

  The Feb 17 Study WT has, in writing, that the GB admit they are not inspired from God and can get things wrong.
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  If You Could Ask the GB Or One Of Its Members...

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ...one question about anything and get a straight answer, what would it be?

  historical, philosophical, theological, eschatological, anything.

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  notsurewheretogo

  So if you are not inspired and get things wrong in terms of doctrine and policy just what is "spirit directed" then in the organzation? Toilet rotas?

  If you are not infallible and not inspired and doctrines and policies are wrong then why do you expect people to 100% follow your counsel and make life-changing or even life-taking decisions that may not be true?
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  Jehovah God is Real

  by TakeOffTheCrown in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there are many on this site that do not believe that jehovah truly exists; that he is not a real being.

  but, he is as real as next breath you draw into your nostrils.. some of you say that there is no evidence that he exists.

  yet, none of you can prove that he does not exits.. cofty, (you come to mind), i appreciate that you have stated, without reservation, that you do not believe that god exists.. yet, you cannot prove it.. hope in jehovah..

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  notsurewheretogo

  Let me tell you a story:
  This story involves some members of the Christian Congregation. These ones were baptized under their given names becoming members of the Congregation.
  One day, they saw this large edifice off into the distance. They became very curious and decided to enter. Inside, were those dressed in long black robes with diadems on their heads. And, on these diadems, were inscribed their new names - their Usernames. The ones in the black robes were speaking the most vile things. Taunting Jehovah’s people and cursing him.
  Who are these ones? They are GOG’S CROWD.

  Well that is me convinced...amazing logic and proof...
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  Jehovah's Limp Witnesses Pointed Me to JW.org When I Was Willing to Talk

  by steve2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  several months ago i approached a nice young couple who were standing by a jw literature stand in my local community.

  they were pleasant and polite but incredibly stilted when it came to answering my "innocent" questions about their beliefs.

  this was the occasion of jws featuring the article headlined "is religion dying?".

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  notsurewheretogo

  They were pioneers...just getting time in...not interested in speaking to people! What were you thinking??? :)
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  Looking for a bit of advice in a difficult situation

  by Oversteer in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm looking for a bit of guidance here and not really sure where to turn.

  maybe someone has been in a similar situation and can help me out.. currently i'm an awake, baptized jw.

  have been for a few years.

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  notsurewheretogo

  It's exactly these situations that I use to my still-in wife...thank you for posting albeit very difficult circumstances for the OP.

  But given the GB have come out and said they can be wrong then the above example shows it is utterly futile and stupid to make a decision that may cost you your life IF the information you base that decision on can be wrong.

  This is the point I make with my still-in family.
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  Australian Royal Commission mentions that G. Jackson was inconsistent

  by Daniel1555 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  it's great that the following is officially mentioned in the royal commission's report:.

  when asked if the governing body members saw themselves as ‘jehovah god’s spokespeople on earth’, mr geoffrey jackson answered that it ‘would seem to be quite presumptuous to say that we are the only spokesperson that god is using’.

  mr jackson’s response seems to be inconsistent with the documentary evidence before the royal commission, which shows that jehovah’s witnesses believe that the governing body is the ‘channel’ by which jehovah’s ‘will’ is communicated to them..

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  notsurewheretogo

  Er well they just admitted that the GB are not inspired nor directed by god and thus get things wrong in policies and doctrines thus was that them admitting they have been presumptous???
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  You know it's time to give up the JW religion when your route call tells you to

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  lasting memory of the latter period of time in the organisation:.

  i had a route call with the magazines whom i'd called on for a number of years.

  eventually when i become a parent i became consumed with negativity, doubt (blood issue) & depression.

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  notsurewheretogo

  Mental issues are increasing in the world...but it seems more so in the JW land.

  As I have mentioned to many who are still in, it is the fact they are trying to live up to something you cannot really do.

  No-one, not one JW can do everything that is asked/forced on them.

  Think about it.

  • Meetings
  • Ministry
  • Study
  • Prayer
  • Conventions
  • Reading daily the bible
  • Prepare for meetings
  • Family Worship
  • Visit Bethel
  • Show hospitality frequently
  • Donate money frequently
  • No sex out with marriage
  • Curb what you watch, listen to or read

  When a JW fails in one of these areas and then they hear about or read about how a JW can do it in these fake magazine examples they instantly feel like they are not worthy, not good enough...always striving but never getting there.

  This is why JW's suffer mental issues or burnout.

  Once they learn to exit as we did, relax and enjoy our lives as we should then life is much happier!
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  Official Increase in the Number of Jehovah's Witnesses You Shouldn't Trust

  by David_Jay in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  reports are coming from witnesses that, once again, the number of memorial partakers has risen considerably this past year, 2016. while confirmation is still to come on the exact numbers, the current explanations given for this increase surely causes a dilemma.. imagine the roman catholic church publishing each year the number of members who it felt were mistaken about what they believed in, that this same number of members was likely suffering from problems such as pride or even mental disorders or something along this line.

  this number, by the way, was in the thousands too and growing annually.

  what would you conclude, therefore about the catholic church and its admission?.

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  notsurewheretogo

  They will, at some point, say that the anointed are only the ones on the GB, everyone else is not anointed.