Posts by notsurewheretogo

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SCOTLAND: Livingston Kingdom Hall

by darkspilver in

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i think this deserves it's own thread, so as not to get mixed-up tl;dr - go to the bar charts at the end...picking up on jambon1's comments:.

the one in the op - livingston, was a merge to the newly built assembly hall in the same area.

i think three congs share that building now.. nice wee scoop up of the cash from the sale of livingston and whitburn.

notsurewheretogo

I've heard that they do not rent other towwn halls from quite far away...folks as far as Perth, Crieff etc have to travel a fair bit for their assemblies because he WT doesn't want to splash cash on nearer venues.

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SCOTLAND: Livingston Kingdom Hall

by darkspilver in

jw
friends

i think this deserves it's own thread, so as not to get mixed-up tl;dr - go to the bar charts at the end...picking up on jambon1's comments:.

the one in the op - livingston, was a merge to the newly built assembly hall in the same area.

i think three congs share that building now.. nice wee scoop up of the cash from the sale of livingston and whitburn.

notsurewheretogo

Been to those halls many times...elders are weird...kids are out of control yet are MS etc cause they get away with everything.

Hated them...everything is about money, possessions etc to them.

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Honest Questions About Child Abuse

by Richard Oliver in

i have two honest questions for everyone here.

i understand that most here want retribution from the courts against watchtower for child abuse allegations.

but let us take away the instances where someone was accused of child abuse and then later put back into a position of authority, such as an elder or an ms. let us just take the cases where a regular publisher or even an appointed person, with no previous accusation of child abuse has come up against that person.

notsurewheretogo

Let me get this straight...the Watchtower allows congregations to form, friendships to be made and the WT has certain policies that members must stick to but the WT states they do not need to report sexual crimes against children nor tell the congregation a member has committed such act YET wonders why people want the WT to be responsible?

The WT governs congregations, it governs appointments and governs sexual abuse policy ignoring many common sense practices like notifying members of a case...100% the WT is responsible...if the WT changed these policies then the abuse might not happen.

For instance, a member can be privately reproved for sexual abuse of children, the elders may deem he is repentant but at field service groups they never pair him with a child.

What is stopping the offender to make a private ministry arrangement with a congregation members child and abuse them? The elders would not know about the arrangement and the parents know nothing about the previous abuse.

The WT therefore contributes to the sexual abuse of children.

100% responsible in creating the conditions where abuse of children can occur AND be hidden.

It is clear Richard is "still in" mentally. The questions he ask are through a JW lens.

Take the red pill and wake up.

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"Just have faith in Jehovah..."

by evilApostate in

i recently spoke to an old friend of mine who is still under the clutches of the watchtower.

a while back, i had told him about all the child sex abuse coverups, false prophecies, false doctrines etc.

he was really shocked and surprised.

notsurewheretogo

How can a person have faith in "Jehovah" when their very definition and explanation of "him" comes from an interpretation of the bible from men who admit they are not inspired, controlled or directed by "Him" and can get things wrong?

It is circular reasoning to trust in "Jehovah" when the very reason you are being told that is you do not trust the men who explain just who, what, why, where "Jehovah" is to you.

Mental.

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2 bilion income from selling HQ now

by Gorbatchov in

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the wts has a tax free income of 2 bilion dollar now by selling the brooklyn hq (beside other recent money schemes).

were has the money gone?.

it must be somewere.. g..

notsurewheretogo

And yet they have the nerve to setup a new box for donations in the UK JUST for the new Bethel site...they can GTF.

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I feel really, really sorry for those born into the Jehovah's Witness religion

by jambon1 in

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some facts that make the difference between you and me:.

1 - as a person raised by non jw family, my parents have never loved me based on conditions set out by a group of old men who they don't even know.

how does it feel to know that you are in the unique situation where your parents brought you into the world and said 'i'll show love to you.

notsurewheretogo

My own kids say so.

We say so too...

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Will Governing Body stop preaching work?

by neat blue dog in

at this year's annual meeting (2016), david "mark" sanderson asks the audience the question, "are you determined to keep on preaching with us until we say the work is completed?

" to which they respond with applause.

do you think that stopping the preaching work will ever be a part of the gb's long range plan?

notsurewheretogo

They couldn't say it stops...as they use the scripture about preaching THEN the end will come...if they say stop then the end comes...and we know it won't thus they must perpetuate the myth that it needs to be preached.

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I feel really, really sorry for those born into the Jehovah's Witness religion

by jambon1 in

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some facts that make the difference between you and me:.

1 - as a person raised by non jw family, my parents have never loved me based on conditions set out by a group of old men who they don't even know.

how does it feel to know that you are in the unique situation where your parents brought you into the world and said 'i'll show love to you.

notsurewheretogo

As a convert at 19 I adored my normal childhood...some great points Jambon1.

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The disappearance of the Special Committees

by Hecce in

as a part of the wt judicial arrangement, for many years there was a sort of review procedure called special committee; basically if a person was not happy with a decision or a particular situation they were allowed to write a letter to the society raisin their concerns.. the majority of these complaints were answered with a standard letter with the counsel of “leave matters to jehovah”.

in some instances the matter was serious enough to warrant the need for a special investigation of the case to be done by a special committee.. at one time the travelling overseers were part of this arrangement; eventually they were dropped out of these cases due to the fact of their tremendous input on the decisions and also the implications when a wrong decision was reached.. the reason behind this procedure was that in matters that were really complicated it was not fair to make a decision based in letters and the clearest way was to have “boots on the ground”.

normally a group of local brothers, appointed for this duty heard the cases and make recommendations to the branch.