notsurewheretogo
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What can be worn at meeting and ministry now?
by Mikejw inso what is appropriate now we don’t have to wear a suit and tie?.
i imagine just a smart shirt and smart casual trousers.
what about shoes?
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Explain the Anthony Morris thing to me
by optimisticskeptic inok, so can someone explain with relative brevity what the anthony morris thing is all about.
i certainly don't miss the guy but would like as valid of an explanation as possible without a bunch of paranoid conspiracies that no one can verify.
as best as i can tell from cryptic comments on here is he is no longer on the gb but in a congregation in the carolinas somewhere.
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notsurewheretogo
Given the raft of changes coming out of the GB it is pretty safe to assume that said changes AM did not agree with and was the reason he is no longer a GB...or at least a factor in why he isn't...along side his closet gay stance and love of alcohol.
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A simple rebuttal to the recent 'Last Minute Repentance' change.
by nicolaou infor decades, critics have pointed out the unfairness of god slaughtering billions in a future armageddon who never even met a jw much less heard their life-saving message.
(remember the contortions around the collective responsibility of nations?
) also, why do babies and children have to die simply because their parents rejected the witnesses?
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notsurewheretogo
Slim, that just says they don't know much like the new light. The principle has always been "be killed by an event caused directly by Jehovah then you have been judged".
But sure they leave it open to the bloke living on a small island during the flood gets wiped out because of it and he never heard Noah may he get a second chance? They say maybe.
But still doesn't change anything at Armageddon where ALL who do die at the hands of Jehovah are dead forever...the new light suggests the same bloke on an island may simply survive Armageddon because he would react favorably if he heard.
This does not equate to the nonsense that billions survive Armageddon...well its all nonsense really but the GB just make it worse.
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A simple rebuttal to the recent 'Last Minute Repentance' change.
by nicolaou infor decades, critics have pointed out the unfairness of god slaughtering billions in a future armageddon who never even met a jw much less heard their life-saving message.
(remember the contortions around the collective responsibility of nations?
) also, why do babies and children have to die simply because their parents rejected the witnesses?
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notsurewheretogo
I remember this being discussed in the late 1990s. They pointed out (I think at a convention) that the difference between dying in the flood and dying at Armageddon is you may get a resurrection if you died in the flood but not if you died at Armageddon. Therefore the fact children of unbelievers died in the flood (so the reasoning went) does not tell us whether or not children of unbelievers may survive Armageddon.
Nope...died in the flood meant you were dead forever as you were executed by Jehovah directly as a judgement. Anyone executed by Jehovah never gets a second chance.
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A simple rebuttal to the recent 'Last Minute Repentance' change.
by nicolaou infor decades, critics have pointed out the unfairness of god slaughtering billions in a future armageddon who never even met a jw much less heard their life-saving message.
(remember the contortions around the collective responsibility of nations?
) also, why do babies and children have to die simply because their parents rejected the witnesses?
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notsurewheretogo
t is clear they are saying there is no difference between those alive at Armageddon to everyone who has died throughout all of history.
You keep missing the fundamental difference. Those who die before Armageddon get a second chance, those executed at Armageddon by Jehovah do not. The new light does not alter Jehovah's execution of people at Armageddon...all it does is allow some to change their mind at the very last minute and possibly be saved.
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What you think consequences gonna be for watchtower if they lose the court appeal in Norway?
by Hellothere inpersonally i think they gonna realise god's not backing org.
that idea gonna get even more established in their minds.
i think the real selling of kingdom hall gonna start then.
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notsurewheretogo
Surprised they lost and it seems to be the DF of minors and the impact that swung it.
It's a risky game if the WT appeal it and go higher because if there was a chance to lose that then all they have done is highlighted to a further audience the issues.
Didn't I read Slovakia are away to do the same?
Interesting times for the WT legally.
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New light on shunning?
by Mikejw inone theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.
he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .
what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.
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it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in Norway.
That is a hell of a leap to be honest. It may be a possibility but to say "very likely" when there is no basis to it doesn't make sense. Why is it "very likely"?
It would be monumental even larger than billions may survive Armageddon 2023 AGM new light.
This is nonsense, you have misread the new light. Billions will still die at Armageddon according to their current doctrines.
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2024 when will Witnesses admit they are wrong???
by Witness 007 in1914 generation is long gone.
1975 was a joke 40 years ago.
i know of many witnesses still hanging on for armagedon but when will they give up?
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notsurewheretogo
The article doesn't say that at all and there is no correlation at all between Covid, vaccination or these bolod clots.
I quote:
"It is a natural phenomenon commonly found in the bodies of the deceased. It also has been observed since before the Covid outbreak and the use of the Covid-19 vaccines."
https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.34KB4DG
You really are proving yourself that you still have a JWdub mindset because your posts on here show you lack critical thinking abilities to review things said and understand them.
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2024 when will Witnesses admit they are wrong???
by Witness 007 in1914 generation is long gone.
1975 was a joke 40 years ago.
i know of many witnesses still hanging on for armagedon but when will they give up?
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notsurewheretogo
Problem is the direction from the GB is now causing white fibrous growths that cause blood clots and excessive people are dying suddenly.
FFS do research.
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JWs in Norway lost to the state - will not get state support back
by BelisemDeBelimakom intranslated with google translate:.
the trial went before oslo district court in january, and now the district court has concluded that the state is acquitted.
jehovah's witnesses are also ordered to pay court costs of just over nok 1.1 million.. https://www-vg-no.translate.goog/nyheter/innenriks/i/2bljxg/staten-frikjennes-etter-aa-ha-blitt-saksoekt-av-jehovas-vitner-melder-dagen?_x_tr_sl=ka&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp.
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What are the odds they coincidentally get new light from Jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?
Steve Let’s comes in next update and says the governing body does not have an issue withbeardstalking to disfellowshipped ones. Why not? Because the Bible doesn’t tell us this.This is exactly what will occur with all these types of doctrines, a softening of them to be more mainstream so they survive...next few years will be quite funny! As we exJW's can quote all their own quotes at them when the WT had a go at other religions when the WT will eventually do the same as them!