Posts by notsurewheretogo

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Need best info on why Jesus could never have chosen org in 1918?

by GodZoo in

hi folks... i was playing a tiny online ipad multiplayer war game last night and one started a dialogue with a another player i was attacking.

in it he quoted a scripture.. and it turns out he he is a 25 year serving jw.

possibly an elder... well.. i spent 6 hours tapping away with one finger in the chat box until 8am this morning with him about all the issues on sex abuse, the money grab and most importantly the subject of jesus turning his attention to the earth and selecting the then bibles students as his one and only people based on what they were teaching (spiritual food) back then.. he knows nothing about any of the current and historic child sex abuse cases (never heard of candice conti etc) and even less about the insane early teachings or russell etc.. i completely blew his mind in our 6 hour text chat not to mention my index finger nearly falling off!.

notsurewheretogo

Read the chapter in Don Cameron's book Captives to a Concept dedicated to why Jesus would never choose them in 1919 based on what they were teaching back then.

Simple, logically and concise....and undeniable.

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Kingdom Hall Sign Generator

by reneeisorym in

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let's have fun with the church sign generator!!!.

http://www.churchsigngenerator.com/sign11.php.

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notsurewheretogo

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Is Watchtower imploding? 10 reasons why the end could be nigh

by WildeLover in

http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/is-watchtower-imploding-10-reasons-why-the-end-could-be-nigh.

i dont know how to hyperlink the link above,.

it's a link to an article by cedars on the possibility of the wt imploding?.

notsurewheretogo

They sold a billion pounds worth of property in the last ten years...and whilst the internet can easily reveal they are false they still have a percentage rise in numbers each year...

They may change and evolve but they ain't going nowhere...

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All quiet on the western front

by campaign of hate in

recently it seems very quiet in jw land.. jw broadcasting has been in full swing for months now, nobody bats an eye lid at that anymore.. so the question is, what is next?

the next organisation change, the next doctrine change.

it seems like this is the quiet before the storm.. the way things are going, it's almost like they try and one up their last change, things in jw land get that bit more crazy every year.. i'm hedging my bets toward a monthly public talk broadcast straight from new york.

notsurewheretogo

And if a monthly public talk from the b0rg does become the standard then that shows a) they don't trust local elders to convey their public talk outlines and b) they are getting scared of losing their control over a dub.

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Huge story unfolding at Warwick

by Crazyguy in

its been mentioned before that warwick is a toxic dump and now the jw's are suing a former owner for compensation.

well this is huge on so many levels.

one they new it was contaminated back a few years ago so why move your headquarters there?

notsurewheretogo

Well considering a GB member said they were unsure if it was Jehoovers will to move there in the first place the average dub assumes that Jehoover doesn't tell these guys directly what to do or what not to do...they just do as they please and hope Jehoover blesses him.

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Reliable source - new round of US Bethel layoffs coming soon

by sir82 in

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was talking to an ex-bethelite who is still very well-connected to those in the ivory tower.. he says that there will soon be a(nother) large number of us bethelites who will be "reassigned to the field" as pioneers and special pioneers.. he did not give his source, but he is pretty reliable.

incidentally, he was "reassigned to the field" in the last big purge about 7 years ago.. i imagine those so reassigned would be pretty teed off.

let go just before the golden lakeshore palace was completed..

notsurewheretogo

It's clearly a sign of the "final push", the GT and the Big A are literally on our doorstep...

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Ghana jw.org call for retraction

by mana11 in

we have read with interest the above front-page headline and its articlewhich was published on page 3 of your newspaper the chronicle of june 22, 2015. in the article, the writer, alfred adams of takoradi, reported that rebecca dankwa and her mother, believed to be worshipping at the jehovahs witnesses church, refused to accept blood transfusion on the grounds that their religion forbids blood transfusions, and she died as a result.. as representatives of jehovahs witnesses in ghana, we write to point out the misinformation contained in that report.

our investigation into the matter has clearly established that the said rebecca dankwa was not one of jehovahs witnesses.

since this person mentioned in the report was not one of jehovahs witnesses, we are at a loss as to why the name of jehovahs witnesses should be linked to the story.

notsurewheretogo

So was she a dub or not?

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Why using Jehovah for God's name is as good as using Yahweh

by oppostate in

in another thread i wrote some notes about why using jehovah in english is as good as using yahweh.

i'm starting a discussion on this topic because it sounds quite ignorant to hear people talk of the monk who started using it in latin without really understanding why the monk did so.. the spanish dominican monk, raymundus martini, in 1270, didn't get hoodwinked by an old jewish superstition about pronouncing the divine name with the vowel points of another word.. 1. first the vowel points of adonay and jehovah cannot be the same for grammatical reasons.

you just can't use the same vowel points because some vowels aren't paired with some consonants in pronouncing hebrew words.

notsurewheretogo

Santa Claus or Saint Nicholas or Father Christmas?

God, LORD, Jehovah, Yahweh...

IT DOESN'T MATTER as neither of those characters exist.

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Has this latest Candace Conti Update been Looked At? Settlement Reached?

by OnTheWayOut in

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http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=0&doc_id=2109889&doc_no=s226656.

supreme court.

change court supreme district 1 district 2 district 3 district 4 div 1 district 4 div 2 district 4 div 3 district 5 district 6 .

notsurewheretogo

I posted in the original thread that we would love to know the details of the settlement as it was strange that the WT decided to settle after advising they would appeal.

In seems Candace has won, all I wonder is has the WT promised her and her lawyers that they will change some of their draconian internal child abuse policies as part of her settlement as she was intent on not just getting compensation for the abuse but she wanted them to admit their fault and change it for others.

But we may never know the details, let us see if she can say anything or if any new elders letters in the future advise of any change to child abuse policy.

Either way, Candace Conti will go down in history as a brave woman who took on a corporation who were wrong and she won, she deserves to enjoy the rest of her life and find happiness.

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2005 - The year the Society began its decline (without anyone noticing)!

by cedars in

i've just finished an article for randy over on freeminds.org, which i've submitted to him for review.

hopefully it should be online soon, so please keep checking!.

the article discusses the fact that the watch tower society is already in decline, and suggests the year 2005 as the turning point.

notsurewheretogo

I'll play Devil's Advocate on this and advise that EVERY company is doing what the WT is doing, slashing costs, cutting operations etc...it's the way of things at the moment...very few companies are actually in growth to the extent pre-world recession.

Whilst the WT has to slash costs because of factors Cedars mentions they are not the sole factor...I work in the publishing industry and the entire publishing industry is struggling with many publishing companies slashing costs or outsourcing departments...

I think to look at the decline of the WT in terms of them closing branches or cutting costs as as sign that they themselves are in decline is not entirely true, the WT, is in effect, a publishing company as the cost to print soars (ink and paper are going through the roof) then the WT simply has to do what all other publishing companies are doing and cut costs.

Of course, other publishing companies don't have to worry about falling donations or child abuse compensation...