Posts by notsurewheretogo

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If they go bankrupt, so what?

by maksutov in

it seems likely that the watchtower is worried about its finances, given the downsizing, property schemes, and money-grabs we have been seeing over the last few years.

perhaps they suffered badly from the financial crisis.

for sure, there will be more expenses to come from child abuse payouts.

notsurewheretogo

OK, so on this thread at least, most people seem to agree that they won't go bankrupt any time soon. But that wasn't what I was asking really! The question is a hypothetical one - what if they did? What would happen next? I'm not normally one for speculating about things that are not likely to happen, but I find this particular question intriguing because for some groups/organisations/companies, bankruptcy is game over - but not, I think, for a religious cult as large as this one.

They would simply spin it as Satan attacking them via persecution but the point we are all making is the question is indeed hypothetical but pointless as they will never go bankrupt.

The bigger questions they need to answer is how to justify to dubs they are the FDS and that we are in the last days when we are getting further and further away from 1914 with each year...at some point they will need to remove 1914 from the picture and how do they do that without a massive wakeup call to the dubs.

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Is this a subtle clue that the leaders really see the "great tribulation" of the WT coming soon?

by never a jw in

similarly, we cannotexpect that the future interruption inthe great tribulation will result in aninflux of new believers.

rather, it willbe an opportunity for all true believersto prove their love for jehovah andgive their support to christs brothers.. (par.

7, page 16, wt july 2015).

notsurewheretogo

Didn't they recently say that whilst the GT is ongoing there will not be an influx of people coming in but there will still be the opportunity?

I say this because I remember reading it about it on here and telling my still-in wife that is me sorted, if the GT starts I'll simply repent during the GT and that's my ticket in....

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If they go bankrupt, so what?

by maksutov in

it seems likely that the watchtower is worried about its finances, given the downsizing, property schemes, and money-grabs we have been seeing over the last few years.

perhaps they suffered badly from the financial crisis.

for sure, there will be more expenses to come from child abuse payouts.

notsurewheretogo

I don't think they are in financial trouble....as I say and as we all know they sold over a billion dollars worth of property in the last ten years...both new complexes in US and UK will cost a fraction of that and will no doubt be very green and conservative buildings.

Every company, rich or poor is consolidating...with the recession over the last few years and things slowly picking up most companies are realizing that they had it good and now need to plan better for whatever the future holds.

I work for a publishing firm and the ongoing rise in costs in paper and other raw materials for publishing is really hitting our company...this will hit the WT too hence why they seem keen to go more digital....if they ever stop printing then there and then they cut enormous costs and surely they are sustainable for a long time yet.

Money is not an issue to the WT, the only issue they will have in the future is to convince people they are chosen by God given their insistence we have been in the last days since 1914....their teachings will be their downfall coupled with the internet and easily accessible information but their downfall will not come in any of our life times.

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If they go bankrupt, so what?

by maksutov in

it seems likely that the watchtower is worried about its finances, given the downsizing, property schemes, and money-grabs we have been seeing over the last few years.

perhaps they suffered badly from the financial crisis.

for sure, there will be more expenses to come from child abuse payouts.

notsurewheretogo

They are simply doing what every company is doing in the world...cutting cost and expenditure...they are consolidating in an attempt to secure their future....they will be around for a long time yet, well after I'm gone!

Of course, unless the Big A comes in my generation...or my overlapping....wait what?

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If they go bankrupt, so what?

by maksutov in

it seems likely that the watchtower is worried about its finances, given the downsizing, property schemes, and money-grabs we have been seeing over the last few years.

perhaps they suffered badly from the financial crisis.

for sure, there will be more expenses to come from child abuse payouts.

notsurewheretogo

They sold a billion dollars worth of property in the last 10 years...how are they going bankrupt??????????

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Why bother creating all the other galaxies?

by purrpurr in

i'm still reading and researching the bible.

a thought occurred to me... the universe is so huge and full yet most of it cannot be seen by the naked human eye.. while jw's could claim that god created the stars to look pretty/ for navigation... what about the rest that cannot be seen?

the huge never ending mass of universe that the bronze age writers of the bible had no idea about?.

notsurewheretogo

I thought most dubs believed that once Jehoover sorts out the almighty dick-measuring contest between him and Satan as to who should rule the universe that once earth has been sorted humans will then populate every planet in every galaxy.

Hell of a job eh?

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The Greatest Paradox

by Perry in

now that i have been a born again christian for 10 years, i see things that just boggles my mind.

like this: we all spent untold hours in the field service telling people (mostly christians) about the paradise earth.

that was the reason we were at their door.

notsurewheretogo

Now that I have been a born again Christian for 10 years, I see things that just boggles my mind.

Indeed like people saying there is a god and that humans have only been the planet 6,000 years and the bible is the word of God...incredible what people believe isn't it?

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Interesting Article: New human link found "Homo Naledi"

by Splash in

haven't read it all yet, but 15 skeletons have been found in south africa, near jo'burg... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11855405/homo-naledi-a-new-species-of-human-discovered-in-a-cave-in-south-africa.html.

notsurewheretogo

They fit in about 200,000 years ago so I read...

Clearly Satan at it AGAIN by planting misleading evidence, will he ever learn it won't detract from the obvious truth that humans have only been on this planet for 6,000 years?

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TV.JW.ORG (September 2015) - Generation explained again

by Designer Stubble in

guess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.

david spane does his best to explain it again.

the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.

notsurewheretogo

More likely, it's a bit of revisionist history. Who knows when Sanderson started partaking! It doesn't matter. It's all a delusion.

"So Markie boy, when did you start partaking?"

"Well Mr Morris when I was 35"

"Ah well but deep down you must have known you were anointed, when was that?"

"In 1991 sir".

"BINGO"

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Could "this generation" inspire a new "1975 debacle"?

by Island Man in

i think that it's possible that they're getting ready to issue a new end time date insinuation like they did with 1975. now i know what some of you are probably thinking: why would they be so stupid as to repeat such a mistake, knowing what happened in 1975?

well here're two reasons why i think they could do it:.

first, it's important to remember that they are deluded.

notsurewheretogo

I don't think so because the overlapping generation explanation buys them 30 years since Mark Sanderson is part of the second group that overlaps the first group and he is only 50...he lives to 80 and that means the Big A could still be 30 years away and the GB prove themselves correct.

So I think the current explanation is perfect in the minds of the GB as it makes it sound like it is very soon whilst in fact it could be 30 years away...I think the GB want that explanation so they can forget about the "generation" explanation and move onto other areas like 1914, 1440,000 etc.