I just can't take any of this thread seriously...nobody who was still a dub would come on here whilst "still in mentally" and yet no-one who was "out mentally" would ever go to Bethel.
Story doesn't stack up for me.
notsurewheretogo
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I got my Bethel Application approved, I start in September
by Quarterback inwell it took awhile.
i've downsized.
got rid of my bmw.
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Got the personal invite to the D.C
by Phizzy ina nice jw old boy knocked the door and asked me how i was, said they were giving out invites, i refrained from mocking him for the total waste of time such "work" is.. he mentioned that " we don't know when the end will come" , so i just said i was sure my new grandson would grow up, go to university, get a good job and his kids would do the same, by which time i shall be long gone.. "you are sure of that ?
" asked the jw, "oh yes", i replied.. i know we cannot be sure of anything, except death and taxes, but there is loads of evidence that my scenario may well play out, there is no single shred of evidence for an "end to the system" as envisaged by jw's, their weird view coming from a totally discredited source, the bible and mainly its final book, what nonsense..
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I agree JW Armageddon is not coming anytime. But if Trump becomes president I wouldn't be so sure of the rest.
In fact even if he doesn't become president I doubt the prospects of humans surviving the 21st century.
Is that unusual?I can't see Trump winning...few of his own party saying today he is unfit for president...polls are close though.
In my opinion there will not a be a supernatural end to the world given I conclude there is no god but as for a man-made end to the world? Who knows...I was speaking to some high up ranking Navakl chaps recently who said things are getting very interesting with Russia...
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Can JWs Use Corporal Punishment On Their Children?
by minimus incan a parent slap or use a "rod of discipline" on their kids?
i know it's politically incorrect and perhaps illegal, but is it a personal decision based upon the scriptures or is it taboo these days?.
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politically incorrect and perhaps illegal
??? No it's not...
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Rank & file are seeing the money-grubbing
by Zoos inspoke with a fellow apostate from my own area.
she and i bailed out about the same time and kept in touch.. she used to do secular work with one of the local elders in his cleaning business until she got dfed.
this same elder was one of the more profound dickheads on my reinstatement committee, before i turned around two years later and daed.. business required her to contact the elder on behalf of an old client.
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I would say the OP post is quite common...I see loads of dubs going through the mill...doing their little bit...a meeting here and there...a bit of ministry...but lots of living life with holidays etc...by far the majority of congregations have like a 25% elite core that are 100% in and do everything whilst the rest just mill along.
The GB will need to do something in terms of doctrine change to spice things up otherwise they will lose more and quicker...and changing doctrine to suit the passage of time or to keep things urgent is the near definition of a cult...
My still in wife is at the very beginning of waking up and its dawning on her what the GB and the WTS really are...a printing firm...
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Volunteer workers pushed to renounce to their social rights
by sp74bb insurprisingly in spain, a large quantity of bethel volunteers (nice to words to say workers) have received their letter telling they are not anymore required.
in this country, government obliged bethel to give social rights such as basic social security (doctors, etc..) to the volunteers as they understand that it is a business relationship.. all of them have been pushed to sign a letter stating they renounce to their work and then go outside bethel with not a single right (unemployment, etc...).
it is really unfortunately but silly from bethel office to arrange it this way.
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More and more exposure to things like this can only help those on the fence wake up...the society are fighting a losing battle and they know it...
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Animals not meant to eat meat
by Carl injw don't believe in evolution .
how come animals teeth are designed to chew meat?
sharks for instance have razor sharp pointy teeth these are not to eat vegetation .
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Wait...what uses are there for cucumbers then???
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Rumor: Discouraging news from GB at upcoming CA?
by bohm inthis is on the reddit frontpage and sounds super weird.
can it be confirmed in any way by anyone here?.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/4u72dk/what_kind_of_announcement_could_cause_jws_to/.
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notsurewheretogo
Yeah I call this "a rumour" for sure...
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I conclude evolution is guided
by KateWild inyour qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
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http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v378/n6559/abs/378767a0.html
I don’t find this source credible.Seriously? WTF? Close this thread...its pointless...her mind is made up no matter the evidence...the word "conclude" is a mistake in this thread title because the process of looking at both sides and then coming to an educated conclusion is not what is happening here.
End of.
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Long Time Visitor New Member
by LogansRun injust wanted to say hello, i have been visiting this site for a very long time and i feel like i know so many of you already, now you can get to know me but for now i'm fading so i cant give my complete story.
i'm single but have "hardcore" siblings in the religion, thankfully i do have family who never expressed interest in the jws.
i really checked out years ago from to much mental abuse and no recognition for all that i gave to this organization.
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notsurewheretogo
Hi Logans Run...username is apt...you are escaping from something that is hard to escape...we have all done or are doing that journey too...hope you take advantage of this forum to aid you!
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Latest UPDATE UK Charity Commission investigation
by Watchtower-Free ingood afternoon,.
i am writing to give you a quick update about our ongoing statutory inquiries into safeguarding and charities linked to jehovah’s witnesses.. as you may know, one of our inquiries is into watch tower bible and tract society of britain.
we opened this inquiry in 2014. watch tower then initiated what turned out to be protracted litigation against us.
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notsurewheretogo
Satan and his propaganda machine on the warpath again...lies filthy lies!!! :)