Posts by notsurewheretogo

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Question for Christians: What Religion are You Now?

by LaurenM in

i know many on here are atheist.

but for the christians on here...what religion are you now that you are no longer a jw?

i'm still undecided as to whether i believe in god.

notsurewheretogo

My ideal christian religion would not promote a strict, literal interpretation of the bible...

Eh? Not sure you get to choose your religion? Surely if you are serious about worshipping "a god" or pleasing him then you only choose one that is "the truth"? Your wants and preferences are irrelevant..surely "a religion" is all about what God wants?

And why are you "researching Christianity"? Why not research IF there is a god or not now that you are out of the JW's...because if you can find the answer to that then it will help you in your next step...imagine wasting time researching Christianity IF there is evidence out there that points to the fact that man was not created and no god exists?

Logically, you would want to find out and prove to yourself if there is a god or not prior to finding out what that god wanted?

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Moving to Warwick Video incl. Morning Worship

by Listener in

a new video is up about the commencement of moving to warwick.shawn bartlett tells the viewers that jehovah has said, through the governing body, ‘it’s time to move out of brooklyn.

‘ then helper robert lucciona says ‘ the governing body, these brothers, as soon as they see god’s direction, they just move, it doesn’t matter if it is long held, cherished ideas, this is the way it has to be done, as soon as they see jehovahs direction.

he just kept nudging imperfect humans, he knew where he wanted us and then we end up where we are supposed to be.

notsurewheretogo

So was "God's Direction" evident when they the GB said:

The generation is a literal generation?
That immunisations were from the devil?
That the F&D class came intro existence in 33AD
That millions living in the 1920's would never die

I could go on and on of course but how do the GB know what God's Direction is when they clearly get things wrong.

IF God WAS directing them would they ever get things wrong? No...unless God purposefully did that...

The fact the GB have gotten many things wrong would indicate they have no idea WHAT is Gods Direction or not thus how do they know moving to Warwick is God's Direction?

I can tell you why though...KERCHING!

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Another "good" elder might be getting the axe....

by humblepotato in

jw
friends

so our congregation is full of hardliner elders, 3 of them, who are not gentle, kind or loving.. people have either moved away or quit trying because one elder inparticular was going to drive them crazy with all his rules and nit picking and being righteous over much.

(and he is pissed that he hasn't been accepted to the school.

hmmm, i wonder why!).

notsurewheretogo

If he resigned then he doesn't need to be a MS again...if his teenage daughter moved out of the family home and he was not to blame in her disfellowshipping then he can be reappointed straight to an elder again unless 2 years pass.

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Can Someone Explain To Me, Are The Org In Debt Or Rich?

by pale.emperor in

hi guys.. im aware of the orgs blatant hints to donate, donate, donate to the org, the sacking of bethel staff, selling of buildings, reducing mags and books, emphasis on digital rather than physical books etc which is obviously a money saver - but are the wt org in money difficulty?

because elsewhere on here and on youtube there's stories of the watchtower being mega rich, one even called it "a billion dollar organization".

and if there is any money in there, who's benefiting off it?

notsurewheretogo

They have sold $1 billion dollars worth of property in the last ten years...they are not skint at all.

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Ridiculous ways you kept your "time going" in service?

by HereIgo in

i used to go out early mornings with 2 pioneer elders, we would drive 20 miles out of the territory (a big no-no) to look for hikers to preach to lol of course there were never any hikers.

then off to starbucks for another hour lol easy way to count 2-4 hours.

i am chuckling as i write this, what a joke!.

notsurewheretogo

Used to walk an hour to uni and then an hour back...would start walking with dropping a tract on car window...walk an hour then drop another tract at the end...did this every day...2 hours a day...easy...

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According to one JW there can only be 1 of 3 reasons why you left.

by Bonsai in

i asked an old jw friend of mine why so many baptized individuals leave the jw religion.

"did it ever occur to you, old friend, that maybe they know something that you don't know and have valid reasons for leaving?

", i asked.. his response set me back for an answer.

notsurewheretogo

No, I would say the reason that most JW's say to each other when a person leaves is that "they were spiritually weak and neglected their study, ministry and prayer"

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Any Others of the "Anointed"?

by Hernandez in

i was baptized in 1985, was a regular pioneer, ministerial servant, and on the way to becoming an elder when i left the witnesses in 1999. i also was one of those who claimed and (at the time ) believed i was one of the anointed.. i am wondering if there are any others here who also claimed they were of the anointed?

how did you come to that conclusion?

how do you feel about your claim now that you are out?.

notsurewheretogo

Whilst I am now an athiest I found the OP's comments very interesting, thank you for sharing.

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My Conclusion After Research

by Disassociated Lady 2 in

since leaving the jws i have looked into many beliefs and have come to this conclusion.. paganism has a high regard for women, as they worship goddesses and respect the female for the ability to give birth to new life.

christianity puts females in second place to males and blames women for male temptations which goes back to eve eating the fruit and tempting adam with it.

they also created a devil with the appearance of the pagan god pan and built churches on pagan worship sites so that people would still go there to worship, but within a christian building.. i have come to the conclusion that paganism versus christianity is about a battle of the sexes.. the fear of demonic forces is taught by religions to deter you from straying.

notsurewheretogo

Since I left the JW's I've learnt that all religions and beliefs are just made up shite and a complete waste of my time. Therefore, I simply live my life the way I want, try to be a good person and love my family and friends, try to be happy before I'm 6 feet under.

Everything else is insignificant.

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Are Gods true worshippers on Earth today? If they are not JWs then who are they?

by Formerbrother in

is there gods true worshipers on earth today as jesus said there would be?

if they are not jws then who are they?.

who else comes close to being gods true followers today?.

notsurewheretogo

None...because God doesn't exist.

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How the org will spin the Midweek meeting about Child Abuse in Australia

by tor1500 in

jw
friends

luke 21:11 says:there will be great earthquakes, and in one place after another food shortages and pestilences;+ and there will be fearful sights and from heaven great signs.

but verse 12 says:but before all these things happen, people will lay their hands on you and persecute you,+ handing you over to the synagogues and prisons.

you will be brought before kings and governors for the sake of my name.

notsurewheretogo

There is going to be a midweek meeting in Australia about the RC?