Posts by notsurewheretogo

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Jehovah God is Real

by TakeOffTheCrown in

there are many on this site that do not believe that jehovah truly exists; that he is not a real being.

but, he is as real as next breath you draw into your nostrils.. some of you say that there is no evidence that he exists.

yet, none of you can prove that he does not exits.. cofty, (you come to mind), i appreciate that you have stated, without reservation, that you do not believe that god exists.. yet, you cannot prove it.. hope in jehovah..

notsurewheretogo

Let me tell you a story:
This story involves some members of the Christian Congregation. These ones were baptized under their given names becoming members of the Congregation.
One day, they saw this large edifice off into the distance. They became very curious and decided to enter. Inside, were those dressed in long black robes with diadems on their heads. And, on these diadems, were inscribed their new names - their Usernames. The ones in the black robes were speaking the most vile things. Taunting Jehovah’s people and cursing him.
Who are these ones? They are GOG’S CROWD.

Well that is me convinced...amazing logic and proof...

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Jehovah's Limp Witnesses Pointed Me to JW.org When I Was Willing to Talk

by steve2 in

several months ago i approached a nice young couple who were standing by a jw literature stand in my local community.

they were pleasant and polite but incredibly stilted when it came to answering my "innocent" questions about their beliefs.

this was the occasion of jws featuring the article headlined "is religion dying?".

notsurewheretogo

They were pioneers...just getting time in...not interested in speaking to people! What were you thinking??? :)

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Looking for a bit of advice in a difficult situation

by Oversteer in

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friends

i'm looking for a bit of guidance here and not really sure where to turn.

maybe someone has been in a similar situation and can help me out.. currently i'm an awake, baptized jw.

have been for a few years.

notsurewheretogo

It's exactly these situations that I use to my still-in wife...thank you for posting albeit very difficult circumstances for the OP.

But given the GB have come out and said they can be wrong then the above example shows it is utterly futile and stupid to make a decision that may cost you your life IF the information you base that decision on can be wrong.

This is the point I make with my still-in family.

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Australian Royal Commission mentions that G. Jackson was inconsistent

by Daniel1555 in

it's great that the following is officially mentioned in the royal commission's report:.

when asked if the governing body members saw themselves as ‘jehovah god’s spokespeople on earth’, mr geoffrey jackson answered that it ‘would seem to be quite presumptuous to say that we are the only spokesperson that god is using’.

mr jackson’s response seems to be inconsistent with the documentary evidence before the royal commission, which shows that jehovah’s witnesses believe that the governing body is the ‘channel’ by which jehovah’s ‘will’ is communicated to them..

notsurewheretogo

Er well they just admitted that the GB are not inspired nor directed by god and thus get things wrong in policies and doctrines thus was that them admitting they have been presumptous???

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You know it's time to give up the JW religion when your route call tells you to

by jambon1 in

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friends

lasting memory of the latter period of time in the organisation:.

i had a route call with the magazines whom i'd called on for a number of years.

eventually when i become a parent i became consumed with negativity, doubt (blood issue) & depression.

notsurewheretogo

Mental issues are increasing in the world...but it seems more so in the JW land.

As I have mentioned to many who are still in, it is the fact they are trying to live up to something you cannot really do.

No-one, not one JW can do everything that is asked/forced on them.

Think about it.

Meetings
Ministry
Study
Prayer
Conventions
Reading daily the bible
Prepare for meetings
Family Worship
Visit Bethel
Show hospitality frequently
Donate money frequently
No sex out with marriage
Curb what you watch, listen to or read

When a JW fails in one of these areas and then they hear about or read about how a JW can do it in these fake magazine examples they instantly feel like they are not worthy, not good enough...always striving but never getting there.

This is why JW's suffer mental issues or burnout.

Once they learn to exit as we did, relax and enjoy our lives as we should then life is much happier!

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Official Increase in the Number of Jehovah's Witnesses You Shouldn't Trust

by David_Jay in

reports are coming from witnesses that, once again, the number of memorial partakers has risen considerably this past year, 2016. while confirmation is still to come on the exact numbers, the current explanations given for this increase surely causes a dilemma.. imagine the roman catholic church publishing each year the number of members who it felt were mistaken about what they believed in, that this same number of members was likely suffering from problems such as pride or even mental disorders or something along this line.

this number, by the way, was in the thousands too and growing annually.

what would you conclude, therefore about the catholic church and its admission?.

notsurewheretogo

They will, at some point, say that the anointed are only the ones on the GB, everyone else is not anointed.

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Why is religion in general so obsessed with what people choose to do with their willies and vaginas?

by jambon1 in

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friends

what was it in the evolution of religion that got them so hung up about what people do with their genitalia?.

i mean, the (mis)use of genitalia is up there with murdering another human being in terms of badness.. and in the 21st century, we have a situation where in the jw religion, it's deemed as acceptable for three middle aged/old men to sit a teenage girl down and ask her the details of her use of her genitals.

to any normal person this is intrusive, completely inappropriate and bordering on deviancy.. why they so obsessed?.

notsurewheretogo

Sexual repression pure and simple...

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So the governing body is NOT inspired...are they still "spirit directed"?

by NikL in

okay there has been lots of buzz about the feb 2017 wt where they say the governing body is not inspired nor infallible.

yet, they are still using the baptism questions.

the second one being... "do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of jehovah’s witnesses in association with god’s spirit-directedorganization?".

notsurewheretogo

Spirit directed and inspired are the same thing...if the GB are wrong they cannot be directed by God or his spirit.

I can't see how you cannot be inspired but directed by God and yet still err in doctrines and policies.

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Hi forum

by A Believer in

i proably shouldnt be on here but i feel like saying this.

i have been for the last couple weeks been studying religion.

i've learned the only ones who today do what the bible says to is jw.

notsurewheretogo

Popcorn at the ready...haven't had a dub on here in a while!

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Something funny about Armageddon

by evilApostate in

years ago, when i was still a publisher, i had a very interesting conversation with a lady in the field service.

we were talking about punishment for sin and so on.

she believed in hellfire.

notsurewheretogo

I could go on for pages...

You sure could, as could we...and the dubs could still explain it that satisfies them because the believe in the concept that it is "the truth" and the GB are selected by Jehoover....any facts, logic, reasoning that show this up are just ignored...cognitive dissonance at full pelt...