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  Do You Ever Doubt Your Efforts Are Futile?

  by Elephant in

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  ...hello folks.... ...i've read countless of posts, ideas, opinions, etc here and i'm interested in your response.... ...there is a whole gamut of feelings here from individuals that are simply annoyed with the wt organization, to those that come off as hellbent on putting the org out of comission.... ...others yet seem to have made it their mission in life to eradicate the concept of god himself.... ...to any of these, what is your motivation?

  and do you ever doubt that these efforts are futile?

  do you feel that you posses the power/ability/means to change the convictions/faiths of the masses?

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  Elephant

  ...very honest answers...thx...

  ...do any of the previous or future posters see their lives as PRE/POSt jw?
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  Do You Ever Doubt Your Efforts Are Futile?

  by Elephant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ...hello folks.... ...i've read countless of posts, ideas, opinions, etc here and i'm interested in your response.... ...there is a whole gamut of feelings here from individuals that are simply annoyed with the wt organization, to those that come off as hellbent on putting the org out of comission.... ...others yet seem to have made it their mission in life to eradicate the concept of god himself.... ...to any of these, what is your motivation?

  and do you ever doubt that these efforts are futile?

  do you feel that you posses the power/ability/means to change the convictions/faiths of the masses?

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  Elephant

  I just have a place to vent

  -on the way out-

  ...that is most understandable...
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  Do You Ever Doubt Your Efforts Are Futile?

  by Elephant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ...hello folks.... ...i've read countless of posts, ideas, opinions, etc here and i'm interested in your response.... ...there is a whole gamut of feelings here from individuals that are simply annoyed with the wt organization, to those that come off as hellbent on putting the org out of comission.... ...others yet seem to have made it their mission in life to eradicate the concept of god himself.... ...to any of these, what is your motivation?

  and do you ever doubt that these efforts are futile?

  do you feel that you posses the power/ability/means to change the convictions/faiths of the masses?

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  Elephant

  thx for your response Phizzy...

  ...so on your terms, you have accomplished your mission?...
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  Do You Ever Doubt Your Efforts Are Futile?

  by Elephant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ...hello folks.... ...i've read countless of posts, ideas, opinions, etc here and i'm interested in your response.... ...there is a whole gamut of feelings here from individuals that are simply annoyed with the wt organization, to those that come off as hellbent on putting the org out of comission.... ...others yet seem to have made it their mission in life to eradicate the concept of god himself.... ...to any of these, what is your motivation?

  and do you ever doubt that these efforts are futile?

  do you feel that you posses the power/ability/means to change the convictions/faiths of the masses?

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  Elephant

  ...hello folks...

  ...i've read countless of posts, ideas, opinions, etc here and I'm interested in your response...

  ...there is a whole gamut of feelings here from individuals that are simply annoyed with the wt organization, to those that come off as hellbent on putting the org out of comission...

  ...others yet seem to have made it their mission in life to eradicate the concept of God himself...

  ...to any of these, what is your motivation? and do you ever doubt that these efforts are futile? do you feel that you posses the power/ability/means to change the convictions/faiths of the masses? if not, do you ever contemplate ending these efforts?
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  With the "New Light" concerning the GB, How would JW's respond to this question?

  by drewcoul in

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  i wonder if the wt or jw's in general would consider paul to be a member of the "faithful and discreet slave.

  he wrote a good deal of the christian greek scriptures.

  surely he would be considered one who was "dispensing food at the proper time" would he not?.

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  However, he was clearly NOT a member of the GB, as the WT claims there was a GB in Jerusalem. Therefore, was Paul a member of the FDS? If not, why did he write so much of the Bible?

  drewcoul-

  ...why did he write so much of the Bible?...why did Moses write so much of the Bible...David...Jeremiah, Isaiah (those books are pretty long)...

  ...what would you say if they asked you this question?...
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  organisation necessary ?

  by inbetween in

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  this weeks meeting, there was one talk about the need for an organisation, taken from the reasoning book.. the usual stuff, how would preaching be possible wiithout org, or the command (?

  ) from hebrews to gather together etc... .

  however, i thought, the fact, that esp.

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  Elephant

  However, I thought, the fact, that esp. the preaching work needs an organisation proofs that they are not supported by a higher power. If god (in case he exists) really wanted a group of people to preach some good news, why does he need a human construct like an organized religion ?

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  ...inbetween...except that, who else is doing said preaching work??...
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  Latest Watchtower about Education ??

  by ShirleyW in

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  saw a sis.

  in the subway station holding a washtowel which had a title dealing with education, can't remember the exact wording now.

  she was actively pursuing everyone as they swiped their metrocard, so as she thrust the mag towards me i said "oh, it's about education, does it say anything about college"?

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  Elephant

  It was one of those smiles that you do when you don't know what to say next so you figure you better just leave it at that !

  shirley-

  ...shirley dear, when you have to explain the other person's thoughts...it takes away from your little 'experience'...
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  Wishful thinking? Will WTBS ever go down?

  by MC RubberMallet in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i see it posted that many are 'waking up' etc.

  but the religion is still growing!

  many enjoy the kool-aid.

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  Elephant

  lol elephant, now whos wishful thinking?

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  laugh away cupcakes...laugh away...
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  Latest Watchtower about Education ??

  by ShirleyW in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  saw a sis.

  in the subway station holding a washtowel which had a title dealing with education, can't remember the exact wording now.

  she was actively pursuing everyone as they swiped their metrocard, so as she thrust the mag towards me i said "oh, it's about education, does it say anything about college"?

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  Elephant

  Then, of course, she turned away with a smile on her face.

  shirley-

  ...wonder what she was smiling about...

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  Wishful thinking? Will WTBS ever go down?

  by MC RubberMallet in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i see it posted that many are 'waking up' etc.

  but the religion is still growing!

  many enjoy the kool-aid.

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  Elephant

  blondie

  Many religions have survived attacks and difficult times. Some part of the WTS will exist for a long time. The focus should be on helping individuals. The WTS lost almost 3/4 of their members around 1925 and after 1975, 2 to 3%, but has bounced back.

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  Will WTBS ever go down? No.

  ...we have too many very intelligent, and very saavy individuals that know how to manipulate the world of finance and investment to our advantage, too many individuals thoroughly versed in state and federal law (not to mention connected to it), too many charismatic individuals that understand how the human mind and heart works, too many foward thinking minds that can forsee the little bumps 100 miles ahead and are already preparing for them (Armaggedon or not)...

  ...oh, and by the way...too many convinced that Jehovah is on our side...