You guys know its all a giant fiction... right?
WillYouDFme
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The Truth about the bible
by TTWSYF init really is common sense, but nobody here seems to recognize or acknowledge this blatant and obvious truth.. the holy bible is the result of the catholic liturgy.
they used these scriptures in their religious practices and confirmed which books would and would not be part of their cannon.
they picked, preserved and promoted these books and gave 'the word of god' to the world.. i know that pisses off some folks, but it is the truth [not the 'truth'tm].
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Britain's Sharia Courts Look Strangely Familiar
by Sea Breeze in.
up to 85 of these sharia law courts operate in britain.
creepy!.
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WillYouDFme
You guys are insane
The Muslim Arbitration Tribunal is a form of alternative dispute resolution which operates under the Arbitration Act 1996 which is available in England. It is one of a range of services (Islamic Sharia Council is another) for Muslims who wish to resolve disputes without recourse to the courts system.[2] According to Machteld Zee, the MAT differs from other Sharia councils in that their ‘core business’ is arbitrating commercial disputes under the Arbitration Act 1996.[3]
The tribunals were set up by lawyer Faiz-ul-Aqtab Siddiqi and operate in London, Bradford, Manchester, Birmingham and Nuneaton. Two more were originally planned for Glasgow and Edinburgh.[4] Rulings can be enforced in England and Wales by both the County Courts and the High Court. The media have described a system of Islamic Sharia courts which have the power to rule in civil cases.[4][dead link] As of 2008, the courts had dealt with around 100 cases dealing with issues such as inheritance and nuisance neighbours..
The MAT operates under Section 1 of the Arbitration Act which states that: “the parties should be free to agree how their disputes are resolved, subject only to such safeguards as are necessary in the public interest”.[5] As such it operates within the framework of English law and does not constitute a separate Islamic legal system. Under the Act they are deemed to be "arbitration tribunals".[4][dead link]
The Muslim Arbitration Tribunal has no powers to grant a divorce which is valid in English and Welsh law.[5][6] A talaq can be granted to recognise divorce.[5][6] A sharia marriage has no bearing on personal status under UK law.[7] The Muslim Arbitration Tribunal has no jurisdiction on criminal matters but can attempt reconciliation between spouses.
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What happened to all of the KH`s that will be required in the next few years ?
by smiddy3 insorry if this has already been posted ,but didn`t they say a couple of years ago that they would be needing hundreds more kh`s in the very near future ?.
and what do we see today ?
a great sell off of kh`s all over the world ?.
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WillYouDFme
When there is more money going out, than the amount of money coming in, then the governing body proves to the whole world they are not mature enough to handle money.
There is ABSOLUTELY no way MORE money is going OUT. No way.
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Two lies all Jehovah’s Witnesses are told
by Farmer Jim1 inlie 1).
when you leave the jws you will be unhappy and will have a hole inside you that only the ‘truth’ will fill.
only when you return to the jws will you feel complete again.. utter nonsense!
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WillYouDFme
Vander, is that a joke I hope?
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What happened to all of the KH`s that will be required in the next few years ?
by smiddy3 insorry if this has already been posted ,but didn`t they say a couple of years ago that they would be needing hundreds more kh`s in the very near future ?.
and what do we see today ?
a great sell off of kh`s all over the world ?.
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WillYouDFme
MASS AMNESIA!
No one remember the in 2015 when they had that special video from the branch that said we are bursting at the seams and need to build thousands of halls IN THE USA!
No one remembers that right after all congregations were ask to donate as if they had a mortgage every month and also empty their bank accounts "for the building work".
No one remember the McKindom Halls that were promised. And how halls that were overcrowded with 3,4, or 5 congregations were going to be given new halls.
And no one blinks an eye when 2 years later they start begging for money (after making 1 billion in Brooklyn sales) and say - we have to CONSOLIDATE halls.
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Two lies all Jehovah’s Witnesses are told
by Farmer Jim1 inlie 1).
when you leave the jws you will be unhappy and will have a hole inside you that only the ‘truth’ will fill.
only when you return to the jws will you feel complete again.. utter nonsense!
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WillYouDFme
Yea just 2? :)
BUT they fulfill their own prophecies often.
Lie 1). When you leave the JWs you will be unhappy..
I think that can happen often! Not cuz of leaving a fake god, but because:
A) you just lost all your friends and may have a hard time getting new ones.
B) you spent your life preaching and have no real career or something you care about.
C) you may have lost all or most of your family because of shunning. (possibly Mate or Kids).
D) you realized living forever and putting all the things that were important for your cuz of paradise, was just a crock of horse crap, and you have a long period of mourning and sadness over the life you "lost".Tameria2001 - I know first hand of marriages falling apart after leaving the ORG, but because they were forced to marry young and someone they may not really have loved at all. Now that they can Divorce without giving a crap about what Elders think, they often do. But not the reasons they (WT) say for sure.
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Dignified Death...Assisted Dying Your Views
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara indignity in dying,assisted dying...your views.
the royalcollege of pysicians (rcp) has dropped its 13 year opposition to the concept of helping terminally .
ill patients die.
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WillYouDFme
I am 100% in favor of it - but don't think I could actually do it for myself.
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Anyone know any former long time Bethelites or circuit overseers?
by BourneIdentity inas you know, when you work your whole life, you pay into social security.
at retirement, you collect a paycheck from the government based on a percentage of income you drew for all those years.
do any of you know anyone that had been at bethel for decades and then were laid off?
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WillYouDFme
So many of them live at the mercy of some congregation that takes them in.
An old CO who had to retire because of age and health was taking in by one of the local halls by me.
They gave him a small apartment, and he lives there with his wife.The same happens all over.
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Last act as an elder
by silas hobbs ini was just reminiscing about the last thing i did as an elder.
after a painful awakening due to family matters,,deleted as an elder due to what i now have come to realize is normal children trying to be more than just zombie tag alongs who don't make problems for their parents and want to explore their talents and intellect.
mistakes and difficulties arise in families but real families do not resort to draconian measures when hormonally influenced children want to take a different path.
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WillYouDFme
My "last act" before I resigned was as the School Overseer.
Every year during the service meeting, they interview the SO.
I took this opportunity to say some things that should go without saying.
1. I talked about how - if you are a JW and really feel people are going to die soon, you should take the school seriously, and really try and improve your writing, speaking, and teaching ability, and if you are not, what does that say about your true feelings. (Really this was meant as a slap in the face to all those self-righteous ones who love to talk but don't ever do anything).
2. My fav was bringing out how "we" are about truth and accuracy. And when we give talks, especially elders, what we say really needs to be accurate, and how much of a disservice it is when we are not. I talked about how you would find up to date accurate information, especially when you are talking about any STEM subject (like the universe, or medical issues, creation...). How if we - especially as elders and servants, are not accurate that it goes against all the JC stood for.
I gave an a few common examples:
No the earth would not become a frozen ball of ice, or a cinder if it were just a little bit closer or farther from the sun.
And I used one about divorce. How we always hear that 1/2 the marriages or more end up in divorce. I cautioned that it is not as simple as that. 1st you need to know how statistics work. In our hall we have a few who were divorced 2 and 3 times, how does that work as a total when there are couples who never have..Also there are countries Columbia, China and in the Islamic world, and even Brazil are in the single digits. So you can't use Blanket Statements, or Paint the World with broad strokes. Be accurate and NOT misleading because it helps your argument.
I did it all with love and charm, but I saw specific people squirming in their seats, and not happy.
F-them, and I am sure it was like punching the ocean, but I spoke my mind can called them out in the only reasonable way as an PIMO elder who was going to resign in a matter of weeks.
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The ineffectiveness of the Watchtower Society preaching work
by RULES & REGULATIONS inhow can the watchtower society claim effectiveness in their 140 years of preaching the ''good news''..... spending billions of hours in ''field service'', having the ''faithful and discreet slave'' lead the preaching work, passing out billions of watchtower literature since the 1870's, while the pentecostals have been more effective using other evangelical methods?
congregations.
119,954. members.
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WillYouDFme
god is the WORST salesman EVER EVER EVER.
He cant get people to want to live in paradise forever.
Sad.