About 9 or 10 years ago (circa 1996-1997), I faced a judicial committee for fornication (JWisms for Dummies...this means I had sex outside of the "marital arrangement"). The decision "from Jehovah" was made in 5 minutes. I was privately reproved. Anyway...
After you are on reproof (public or private) and even after you are disfellowshipped, one of the judicial members are supposed to meet with you every week or so to gauge your progress.
My personal experience was that the elder would try to "help" me see how I ended up making the choice I made (when I had sex), for example, he said the music I listened to, the movies I watched, etc contributed to my "sin".
As I think back, never did he tell me to seek counseling. Only once did they meet with my wife. Never did they encourage me or my wife to get an HIV test.
Really, all they did was tell my wife that she can't keep withholding the renderance of my due if she really forgave me. Seriously, they told her that.
Ultimately, I was reinstated after six months of Watchtower articles, sporadic meetings with the elder, and no marital counseling.
Yes, I should have been wise enough to have gotten tested for HIV soon after the act. But...I don't know...I was only concerned for my so-called "spiritual sickness".
My whole time as a JW was filled with dumb decisions, fear, and unhappiness, wtih NO REAL advice and counseling coming from the elders.
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Judicial Committee - Elder Counseling - Is your experience similar?
by Funchback inabout 9 or 10 years ago (circa 1996-1997), i faced a judicial committee for fornication (jwisms for dummies...this means i had sex outside of the "marital arrangement").
the decision "from jehovah" was made in 5 minutes.
i was privately reproved.
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Quotes update: Free to publicly comment on the action
by Quotes infor the newbies, this post is a follow up on my situation regarding the watch tower's law suit against my due to my watch tower quotes web site.
for the background on the story so far, see these threads:
quotes website receives "cease & desist"
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We appreciate everything you have done (and will do)!
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Latest Awake! - "What is the Harm of Buying Girl Scout Cookies?"
by Funchback inpeople from all over the united states enjoy the taste of a samoa cookie or a thin mint.
in fact, during the winter campaign of the girl scouts of the usa, people spend millions of dollars on these delicacies.
linda* (*not her real name) said that she buys no less than 18 boxes of the cookies every two weeks during the campaign.
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People from all over the United States enjoy the taste of a Samoa cookie or a Thin Mint. In fact, during the winter campaign of the Girl Scouts of the USA, people spend millions of dollars on these delicacies. But, should a true Christian purchase a box of Girl Scout cookies? Linda* (*not her real name) said that she buys no less than 18 boxes of the cookies every two weeks during the campaign. "I'm addicted", she confesses. Robert* (*the name has been changed) adds, "Do-Si-Dos, Thin Mints, and all of the various others are simply too good to pass up!".
But, have you ever given pause to think about what you are supporting? According to a box of Thin Mints* (*the actual name of the box has been changed), you are supporting the Girl Scouts to build "Strong Values. Strong Minds. Strong Bodies. Strong Spirit. Strong Friendships. Strong Skills. Strong Leadership. Strong Community."
Should a true Christian want to promote such "strong" ideals when it comes to the female population? Ask yourself, 'When was the last time I saw a women microphone handler?', and, 'Is there a such thing as a female elder?'. The answers, of course, are 'Never!' and 'No!'.
Really, what do these things mean?
Strong Values = Where else but in God's earthly organization can one receive teachings to receive their values?
Strong Minds = This is promoting independence from the one true God.
Strong Bodies = What fine Christian Shepherd wants to come home to a masculine woman?
Strong Spirit = Only one spirit should be promoted amongst us: God's Holy Spirit.
Strong Friendships = Friends of the world are an enemy of God.
Strong Skills = Again, only brothers who are reaching out should develop any kind of skills. Duh!
Strong Leadership = Women are born to follow, not lead. We say so. So put the matter to rest.
Strong Community = Community Shommunity!
So, we here at Headquarters say 'NO' to Girl Scout cookies. But, if you already bought some and you feel a little guilty, don't hesistate to send 'em on up this-a-way. We'll get rid of them for you.
By the way, speaking of Thin Mints, why do some of the boxes contain perfectly round cookies, while others have a more of a flowery shape? Hmmmm..... -
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Ron Artest for Peja? What the heck are the Kings thinking?
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Hey, avishai...
Good question. Peja wanted to be "the man" and he felt he couldn't co-exist anymore with C-Webb. Now that the kings are (were) HIS team, he has come up quite small. Now he can't shoot, can't score, and he can't lead his team. He was unhappy in Sacramento and he is a Free Agent after the season. The flip side is, the kings get Artest??? Talented, but quite loopy. Peja should fit in with Indy for the season, but, honestly, C-Webb was (is) the best passing Forward in the league. He made Peja...at least he got him a ton of open looks.
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National Sex Offender Public Registery
by Funchback inin case you ever wanted to know who is a registered sex offender in your neighborhood.
detailed information varies from state to state, but most states are pretty generous with the information about the registered offenders.
and, they show the photo of the offender.
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In case you ever wanted to know who is a registered sex offender in your neighborhood.
Detailed information varies from state to state, but most states are pretty generous with the information about the registered offenders. And, they show the photo of the offender.
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DON'T MESS WITH GRANDMA
by BrendaCloutier inan elderly florida lady did her shopping and upon returning to her car, found four males in the act of leaving with her vehicle.
she dropped her shopping bags and drew her handgun, proceeding to scream at the top of her voice, "i have a gun, and i know how to use it!
get out of the car!
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Funchback
I saw this on TLC's "Mostly True Stories". It's really an urban legend, and it is not a true story.
Still, it is pretty funny.
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What a load of rubbish!!!!!!!!!! How can they?
by Spectrum ini watched king kong the other day and as usual i walked out on the film.
i think it was the two hour point and they still had not returned to new york.
i couldn't sit through any more of that badly made, awfully acted film.
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Tell us how you really feel!
I liked the film, so I guess that makes me stupid.
I am half-black, so I guess I am an 'Uncle Tom' for liking it.
I am half white, so I guess I am a racist for liking it.
Russell Crowe killed Tigers and men in Gladiator while juggling a sword.
Mike Tyson beat up two men and a woman in a hotel lobby (although I don't know if he was juggling anything).
Bob Barker has allegedly fondled each of his Barker's Beauties, and I have a feeling he was juggling something!
Michael Jackson not only has a song called 'Black and White', but he also lives it.
Black people have some good food products on lock: Uncle Ben, Aunt Jemima, and Mrs. Butterworth (althought she kinda is white after all the syrup is gone).
White people also have some food products on lock: Francesco Rinaldi, St. Pauli's beer, and Grampa Stroehmann (as white as you can get).
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I saw John from Revelation at Bethel
by Funchback inhow lame was i that when i toured bethel many years ago, i was all giddy when i saw the old man who was "john" from the wtbts 'revelation' book?
"ooh!
it's the guy from the revelation book!
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I wish I saved that WT with the big headed wife. But, it was several years ago.
I most certainly know that the PO still has it. He would always show people the covers of magazines that he and his family have graced.
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I saw John from Revelation at Bethel
by Funchback inhow lame was i that when i toured bethel many years ago, i was all giddy when i saw the old man who was "john" from the wtbts 'revelation' book?
"ooh!
it's the guy from the revelation book!
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The funny thing about the wife of the millionaire elder is that she has a huMONgous head. One time they did a family photo on the front of a WT and her head continued on the back cover.
It was priceless!!!
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I saw John from Revelation at Bethel
by Funchback inhow lame was i that when i toured bethel many years ago, i was all giddy when i saw the old man who was "john" from the wtbts 'revelation' book?
"ooh!
it's the guy from the revelation book!
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How lame was I that when I toured Bethel many years ago, I was all giddy when I saw the old man who was "John" from the WTBTS 'Revelation' book?
"OOH! Look! It's the guy from the Revelation book!", I exclaimed.
"Would you like to meet him?", said the tour guide.
"Sure", I responded like a kid about to get an autograph from his favorite athlete.
Also, there is an elder (PO, in fact) from my ex-congregation who is a millionaire. He and/or his wife and kid have graced the covers of WTs/Awake's several times. I guess if you donate enough you can have your 15 minutes of JW fame.Any of you know anybody like this? Or, have you met any of the "stand-ins" who appear in cartoon fashion in the WTS publictions?