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  How long do you think being a JW will affect you?

  by Adam in

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  i haven't been on this board for a while.

  i've been on a conservative ezboard trying to see if we can't do something about political issues.

  i've also got a new job, had to get the car fixed, been best man in a wedding, and watched the two towers on vhs.

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  For the rest of my life. That is not necessarily a bad thing.
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  Confusing Good Sex as Love

  by Robdar in

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  i will go for weeks, months, sometimes a year without sex.

  then, if conditions are right and i am particulary attracted to a man, i will bed him.

  if the lovin' is good, i might bed him again.

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  Good topic, Robyn.

  Both men and women can mistake sex for love. This especially can happen if the person's personality type is NF.

  The best sex is making love to your soulmate; nothing can beat when the hearts, minds, souls, and bodies combine.

  However, sex and love are different for many people, especially those with NT or SP personality traits.
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  Did You Feel Obliged To Do Business With The "Brothers"or Did You Not Care?

  by minimus in

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  jw's are always in some business venture of one sort or another.

  i knew of some in the congregation that didn't do business with brothers and sisters because they'd gotten burnt too many times.

  i knew of others that felt obliged to buy something from fellow witnesses, especially elders.

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  But Skeptic, the Society's bigwigs are the ones that will use a JW over anyone else AND recieve FREE service and products.

  Well, no wonder, since the price was right. Not to mention that if they are bigwigs, the service they get from the brothers will be top-notch. Why wouldn't they keep using JWs? Their advice about treating JW businesses like any other business is sound, even if they personally choose to use only JWs. In my case, I have only been blatantly ripped off a few times by JWs. Of the times I remember, it was incompetence, as I only selected that sister because she needed the money and I wanted to help a JW out. I quickly cancelled her services, and selected a worldly firm who gave me good service. Another time, I was ripped off by a sister for $1000. A brother would lie about when his work would be done; the actual time was three times what he told me. He did work hard most of the time though, and the finished product was breathtaking. When confronted about the lie, he simply admitted to it. And, of course, the JW brother who saved me tons of money....I mentioned him in my last reply. Xena, I am sorry to hear about your father. That is so tragic.
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  Did You Feel Obliged To Do Business With The "Brothers"or Did You Not Care?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  jw's are always in some business venture of one sort or another.

  i knew of some in the congregation that didn't do business with brothers and sisters because they'd gotten burnt too many times.

  i knew of others that felt obliged to buy something from fellow witnesses, especially elders.

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  Well, at least here is an area we can't blame on the Society; except for the stupid "don't sue a brother" rule - which is in the Bible! They counsel JWs to treat JW businesses like any other, and to get everything in writing. I generally treated JW businesses like any other.

  So let's be fair; many JWs are honest. My car have a broken and very siezed spark plug, and the estimates were $1000-$1500 because the a head had to be pulled and machined. A JW mechanic did the work for $375; the difference was he had access to a tool that could extract the spark plug - none of the other garages heard of the tool.

  When I gave business to a Witness mainly because they were a Witness, the results were iffy. I have received bad service and good service from JWs, like any other businesses.
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  Who here has a way with women?

  by obiwan in

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  ok, i'm know 'm going to take a beating here ( at least i hope so ).

  i am interested in knowing what other guy's "skills" are.

  can you be in a room of women only and get them to talk to you?

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  seven006, good post.

  Every woman is different, though I tend to agree with Estee about most women not wanting an indecisive male. Some of it is perception though; what one woman would consider indecisive another would consider to be sensitive to her feelings. Both are probably right.

  As far as indecisive goes, I have found that to be a characteristic of women as much or more than men.

  Yes, but socialization and evolution allow for this. Traditionally, men have been the decision-makers, the providers and protectors. I am not saying this applies in all cases, or that this is necessarily right. However, it does mean that decisiveness is generally considered manly. It also means that indecisiveness in a woman is not undesirable; traditionally, the woman's role has been to support the male.

  If a guy knows what he wants from the beginning, that may scare some women. That is dependent on what that "want" is. It would be nice to be completely honest and up front from first eye contact but I have never seen that happen nor is that first attraction solid enough to carry though to any thing more than a first sight attraction. The eventual introduction of things both unexpected and unwanted during the dating process can change everything.

  I normally state my intentions upfront and I find that works for me. This does tend to scare some women, as they are used to guys hiding their intentions. I have been accused on this site of being a player simply because if I am considering a woman as a possible marriage mate, I state that upfront. With American women, I tell them the problems with falling for a Canadian as the immigration rules are heartbreaking. If this makes me a player, then so be it; I prefer to state my intentions upfront, so that she knows what she is dealing with. Some people think it is better to hide one's intentions, win her heart over, and then tell her the problems that come with an international romance and marriage. I think such people are cads. Each to their own, I guess.

  So, if I am just having fun, seeking a lover, or am seeking a wife, the woman knows very quickly where I stand. I do this to minimize heartache, and because I don't play games. Fortunately, now I don't have to worry about such things, as I have found myself a very wonderful woman who I intend on spending the rest of my life with. And yeah, she knew my intentions upfront. And when those intentions changed (I fell in love with her), she was immediately told.
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  Who here has a way with women?

  by obiwan in

  1. jw
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  ok, i'm know 'm going to take a beating here ( at least i hope so ).

  i am interested in knowing what other guy's "skills" are.

  can you be in a room of women only and get them to talk to you?

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  Eric, WOW! Very good way of putting it! I never saw it that way before. Thanks for explaining that.

  teejay, thanks for your insights.

  They can be pretty cool and awfully fun to be around, too. Just treat 'em like people and you'll quickly find out which they are.

  I agree. I enjoy women's company much more than men's. This is due to a quirk of my childhood that made me able to talk to women easily. I have trouble talking to men, mainly because a good percentage feel they have to show me up somehow. I don't play those games.

  And you're right: ""Few men do."...Women love it when they have the chance to be around a man who doesn't have those kinds of issues. Believe me.

  I do believe you. I find that many men find women a mystery, and spend their time plotting how to get them or how to talk to them. Few men view women as their equals, and even fewer value a woman's intelligence. For me, an intelligent woman is very attractive; a dull-witted one does not hold my interest for long. Since many men are intimidated by an intelligent woman, this gives me a huge advantage over them.

  One of the most fun places I could ever be is a room full of women....In that situation, most of the men I know would freeze up like a deer caught in the headlights and find a ballgame on TV as quick as they could. Me? I really hafta watch myself 'cause in a setting like that I'm like a little kid in a candy factory. -hee hee-

  This is getting spooky. I tend to gravitate towards the kitchen in any gathering, as I love to be in a room full of women. For some reason, I enjoy women's conversations much more than men's. Most men look at me like I am strange to be in the kitchen with the ladies, but the women seem to enjoy it. As a bonus, I get to snitch some food!
  
  

  There's lots of ways to get women going, but in case you don't know one, here's a tip: get 'em to talk about men. (That was a free tip. You'll have to pay for the rest.) If you're just a little bit clever, you can have a lot of fun with what comes out of that.

  That sounds like fun! I will have to try that. Uh, what is your fee structure?

  wednesday,

  a guy who will spend time talking to me . that is a real turn on. It is like foreplay for a woman.

  I agree. For some reason, most men are not interested in really talking to a woman. The book Emotional Intelligence explains why.

  I love talking, just talking for hours. And cuddling for hours. For some reason, this is very rare, or so I am told.

  Estee,

  Ummmm...those guys are the married ones....?

  LOL! Probably...or else the previously married ones.

  Indecisive men are a turnoff...detectable by women immediately...

  I love getting a woman's insights. Estee, I never knew that before.....that explains so much about my romantic history.

  Pepper, women love a singer. Being a singer is a major babe magnet.
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  Who here has a way with women?

  by obiwan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, i'm know 'm going to take a beating here ( at least i hope so ).

  i am interested in knowing what other guy's "skills" are.

  can you be in a room of women only and get them to talk to you?

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  This is so sweet. . . and yet so sad. . .

  <blush> thanks, sp.....don't worry for me, my tale has a very happy ending.
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  Who here has a way with women?

  by obiwan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, i'm know 'm going to take a beating here ( at least i hope so ).

  i am interested in knowing what other guy's "skills" are.

  can you be in a room of women only and get them to talk to you?

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  frenchbabyface,

  Basically my reasoning about that is : you want her, take her … I’M OUT right now!

  My thinking is similar. If a lady does not want me, she should move on. If she is coming on to every man in the room, how special am I? Somebody else can have the slut, I don't need her. There are a world of decent, good, loyal women. Why pick or stay with someone who is loose or plays games?
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  Who here has a way with women?

  by obiwan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, i'm know 'm going to take a beating here ( at least i hope so ).

  i am interested in knowing what other guy's "skills" are.

  can you be in a room of women only and get them to talk to you?

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  You said it perfectly, Skeptic.

  Thanks for the compliment, teejay. Now I am going to return one to you.
  
  

  And I might add: don't be in awe. Love their company to pieces, but don't be in awe. Works.

  teejay, I wholeheartedly agree. I tend to be totally in awe of any woman I fall for. I found out the hard way that this turns women off for some reason. I think it scares them; some people are afraid of love, and I love very deeply. So, now I try to reign it in, or temper it more.
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  Why do members here have a fascination with telling us they're leaving ?

  by run dont walk in

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  maybe i am way out of line with the comments i am about to make, and i may offend some people,this is not my intention ............ but why do members of this board make a big deal that they are leaving the board ???.

  i just don't get it, are we all here, like a big circle of friends, would you tell your immediate circle of friends you won't see them anymore because you have no time ???.

  you do not have to post everyday or every week here, i take a break sometimes because yeah i don't have the time to post or start a topic, so, but it irks me when people say their life is too busy, or they have others thing to do and will not be posting here anymore.

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  Most people who leave for good reason tell us out of courtesy. Their goodbye posts generally consist of "I am going on vacation for awhile and...". Though it indicates lousy personal security practices, it does let their friends know they are OK and prevents the "so-and-so won't answer my accusations because they are true" nonsense.

  Others just do it for dramatic effect. They want attention, or they are pissed and have to leave a few abusive words to be remembered by.

  I haven't left any goodbye threads because I see that most who leave come back. I want to avoid that embarrassment. So I go on with my little life, or I lick my wounds and come back when I am ready.

  I don't read a lot of goodbye threads, cause they aren't worth the time. The only one I was happy to see was sent by a very abusive individual. I hope him and his cronies never come back (sigh-they will); chances are they are playing their sick games on another website.