Focus,
First, I apologize for being so blunt in my first reply. However, I do not think it warranted your response, nor your insults in the other thread. Nonetheless, I will give a quick reply. I had previously thought you were a reasonable person, but now I wonder. Unless, of course, you have just “snapped”.
Yes, you are right, the divorce was not finalized. They were in the beginning stages of a divorce, not the end. I erred in that.
And to be perfectly honest, neither of us can prove either side. Just as I don’t know if the woman was abusive and lying, you don’t know what contribution the JWs made to the situation, beyond helping with the divorce itself.
Tell you what I’ll do: due to a lack of SOLID, VERIFIABLE evidence, I will withdraw my assertion that Kevin Hensley was an abusive husband. I still personally believe he was, but it is a belief based on circumstantial evidence and not solid proof.
So, produce evidence that the Watchtower leader’s caused Nancy’s murder. If you cannot, then retract your statement or admit you are stupid and shut up.
Focus, you are a poster I normally respect. I should let this post end here. Yet you have succeeded in doing something that is rare on this board, pissing me off. Since that was your intent, I will continue. Besides, I have to give you something to blast me over, right?
Focus, have you ever been in an abusive relationship? I have. My first wife was a husband-beater, and I eventually made her leave. I doubt that you care, or are capable of understanding unless you have been in an abusive relationship yourself. They can get really weird. And when the man is the victim, he gets no sympathy. So, don’t shed any tears over me. I know you won’t. Focus, if you have been in an abusive relationship, you have my deepest sympathies. It can be pure hell.
Facts consistent with the man being abusive:
1 ) the midst of a bitter divorce that began just three weeks ago when Nancy Hensley, 45, tossed her husband out of the house and got a restraining order against him.
Counterargument: The wife could have lied.
2) Hensley, a 55-year-old Boston Transportation Department employee, allegedly strangled his wife, Nancy, in the family's Byron Street home Thursday afternoon.
Counterargument: Someone else committed the murder; unlikely. He snapped…when an abusive spouse kicks you out, it is more common for you to be happy, not that you snap and murder the spouse.
3) The friend said Hensley was "embarrassed" when he was served with a restraining order last month at work. He described the Hensleys as "the perfect couple" and said they "fought no more than anyone else."
I smiled when I read this one. Everyone thought my first wife and I had “a perfect marriage”. My relatives do not like me to this day, simply because I divorced the bitch. My relatives still like her, and that is fine with me.
I wish I had my other source, I remember reading that it is not uncommon for men to kill their wives when a divorce starts or a restraining order is put on them.
4) Nancy Hensley was a recently converted Jehovah's Witness and claimed that "someone was guiding her in this (divorce)." "Someone was telling her what to do. I hope that person who guided her is happy now,"
If I were being cynical, I would say that that sentence only implies the dubs were giving advice. However, Nancy was probably getting advice from the Witnesses. There is no evidence that she was told to lie. Just as there was no evidence that the Dubs did anything more than advise her to divorce an abusive husband and/or assist with the divorce proceedings.
Of course, I could add that we both know how destructive a JW conversion can be to a marriage, but I am not allowed to bring that up according to you because I have no evidence that any damage actually occurred. I suspect there was some, but I would not want to risk being called stupid again.
This is the limit of the influence the Dubs had, if we go strictly by “evidence”, not using our brains and thinking.
5) Neighbors yesterday said the Hensleys appeared to be a happy family.
This is common in abusive relationships. Problems are kept hidden, the appearances kept up.
Also, women (like men) do TELL LIES in depositions during divorces, Mr "Skeptic"...
Very good point. So do men and children. Though I must say that my ex did not lie on her depostion (to the best of my memory) and nor did I. Our kids did, however, and both of us haven't got much use for two of them right now. And yes, I am pissed at them for what they said about her, as well as what they said about me. Make out of that what you will.
Now, you called me stupid and told me to SHUT UP if I did not produce evidence, so where is your evidence to justify the following statement?
I boldly contend that the principles of Justice demand that the law be modified so that certain leaders (at the local and other levels) of the Jehovah's Witnesses Cult SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH MURDER, alongside Kevin Hensley.
Focus, please present evidence showing that the leader’s of Jehovah’s Witnesses should be charged with murder, alongside Kevin Hensley. Remember, if you can’t then by your own standard you are stupid. See, I can do the childish name-calling too!
Yet another Family utterly destroyed by the Watchtower, one can reasonably surmise.
Here is the main point of our disagreement. You surmise that the Watchtower did the destroying, I contend that there was not much left to destroy. If Kevin Hensley was neither abusive nor unstable, how could the Watchtower destroy things so much he kills his wife? I can see the Watchtower being 100% the cause of a divorce, but not a murder. There had to be another factor. And with Nancy’s allegations of abuse, Kevin murdering Nancy seems to endorse that.
Yes, I know how abusive spouses can cause great emotional pain. And how an abusive spouse can falsely accuse the other of abuse. You claim that Nancy could have lied, and maybe she did.
My first wife told me to hit her. When I refused, she said she would accuse me of hitting her. Fortunately, she never did accuse me. What she did do what convince all of my children that I have cheated on her, “many times, with many women, over many years” and destroy any hope of a relationship with two of my sons. I have never cheated on my wife ever. And although she has cost me dearly, I have not even wanted to kill her, which is a far cry from actually killing her.
Tell you what I’ll do: due to a lack of SOLID, VERIFIABLE evidence, I will withdraw my assertion that Kevin Hensley was an abusive husband. I still personally believe he was, but it is a belief based on circumstantial evidence and not solid proof.
So, wipe the foam off your mouth and produce evidence that the Watchtower leader’s caused Nancy’s murder.
Richard
