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  do you still want to live forever?

  by sleepy in

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  imagine that chance was offered to you .is it something you still desire?.

  i wonder how desriable it would be to live forever.what problems it would bring.would we want to stay married to the same person, would we get to know everyone on earth?.

  how would it effect our attitude toward life , would we get anything done knowing there was no rush?.

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  sleepy

  Imagine that chance was offered to you .Is it something you still desire?

  How far would you go to get it?
  I wonder how desriable it would be to live forever.What problems it would bring.Would we want to stay married to the same person, would we get to know everyone on earth?
  How would it effect our attitude toward life , would we get anything done knowing there was no rush?
  What are the practical problems you can think of?
  Could it in fact be a realistic possibility due to scientific advance , even in our life times?
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  OK, OK, 10 reasons Why..You Know The Rest..

  by Englishman in

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  1. we got pubs.

  1000's and 1000's of pubs.. 2. liz hurley.. 3. manchester united.. 4. the harrier / concorde / a380xxx.

  5. we got more overseas territories than anyone.it is still true, even now.. 6. the s.a.s.. 7. lots and lots of steam railways!.

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  sleepy

  Are you all bonkers?

  No one mentioned Indian takeaways.
  The most popular British meal.
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  Friends we are too unbalanced.

  by sleepy in

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  well sometimes we are.. look we have the knowledge and experience to help a lot of people.must of us have one time been jw's and understand how many think.so lets not put them off by being too negative.. when we were witnesses most of us were quite happy .

  we tried to be good people , to put into practise principles that many people think are good.

  we did this sometimes even when we didn't want to , because we thought god would hold us accountable and because we cared for people .

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  sleepy

  I must admit I find it baffleing how people can condem the apparent evil they see in the typical witness and write in such language that it indicates that they hate them, whilst at the same time condeming the witnesses because apparently they hate non-witnesses.
  Seems these people ,if they are correct in what they say about witness, have not changed their own attitude much since they were one.

  Could it be the case that those who were witnesses and had the "wrong" motives for what they did and did hate "worldlings" and all that have just reversed postions, while those that tried to "help" "worldlings" and show compassion are doing the same now for the witnesses who they now view as in error?( just thinking aloud )

  Tina
  "You've totally missed the point. I suggested you look it up.It is not my definition,but universal ideals.Do you understand this sentence?
  You are exactly like the witnesses.You want all the answers handed to you so you dont have to put forth some honest effort"

  I,m sorry you misunderstand the reason I pose those questions.
  In fact when as ask a question here i am often not looking for answers I just want to understand other peoples viewpoint.

  As to universal ideals considering that most of the world is stepped in religious belief systems that have their own definitions of what is ideal the only ideals that even seam universal are the same ones that witnesses try to apply,mainly love for one another .
  How you define showing love will vary according to your world view.

  Edited by - sleepy on 5 December 2001 10:16:43
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  Friends we are too unbalanced.

  by sleepy in

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  well sometimes we are.. look we have the knowledge and experience to help a lot of people.must of us have one time been jw's and understand how many think.so lets not put them off by being too negative.. when we were witnesses most of us were quite happy .

  we tried to be good people , to put into practise principles that many people think are good.

  we did this sometimes even when we didn't want to , because we thought god would hold us accountable and because we cared for people .

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  sleepy

  What horse am I flogging?

  Well the horse is that apostates or people who have left Jehovahs witnesses tend to turn everything into a negative and forget what it was like as a witness.
  That it was not all dome and gloom for most and that there was a lot of love and concern shown for others by witnesses.
  Their beliefs have caused them to do things I belive are wrong but the same can be said about all sorts of people and reasoning systems.

  There is no best way of life no perfect people ,just better ones or different ones.
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  Friends we are too unbalanced.

  by sleepy in

  1. jw
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  well sometimes we are.. look we have the knowledge and experience to help a lot of people.must of us have one time been jw's and understand how many think.so lets not put them off by being too negative.. when we were witnesses most of us were quite happy .

  we tried to be good people , to put into practise principles that many people think are good.

  we did this sometimes even when we didn't want to , because we thought god would hold us accountable and because we cared for people .

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  Tina

  The universal concepts of justice and personal responsibility.
  Which are exactly?

  What I mean is who defines them.
  I was asking you to state what you thought they were.
  Do you expect others to live by your concepts?Are these the correct ones?
  sounds like the witnesses in reverse.

  Frenchy and Larc

  Its good to know I'm not the only one.

  Edited by - sleepy on 4 December 2001 15:13:55
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  Friends we are too unbalanced.

  by sleepy in

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  well sometimes we are.. look we have the knowledge and experience to help a lot of people.must of us have one time been jw's and understand how many think.so lets not put them off by being too negative.. when we were witnesses most of us were quite happy .

  we tried to be good people , to put into practise principles that many people think are good.

  we did this sometimes even when we didn't want to , because we thought god would hold us accountable and because we cared for people .

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  sleepy

  The universal concepts of justice and personal responsibility.
  Which are exactly?

  The newspaper was to show that these things happen amongst all types of people.
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  Who has UNconditional love?

  by patio34 in

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  i have seen the term 'unconditional love' used often in reference to jws.

  now, i understand the import: they love someone only on the condition that someone remains a jw "in good standing.

  however, the term 'unconditional love' is proferred in a positive light.

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  ashitaka

  Doesnt this mean your uncondisional love is open to abuse.
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  Friends we are too unbalanced.

  by sleepy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well sometimes we are.. look we have the knowledge and experience to help a lot of people.must of us have one time been jw's and understand how many think.so lets not put them off by being too negative.. when we were witnesses most of us were quite happy .

  we tried to be good people , to put into practise principles that many people think are good.

  we did this sometimes even when we didn't want to , because we thought god would hold us accountable and because we cared for people .

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  sleepy

  "The abusive behaviors they manifest (shunning,educational deficits, womens second class status not really giving to their community,archaic methods in dealing with child abuse, etc etc go beyond the norm.This negates the few good behaviors they may have."

  The norm of human behaviour is what?
  Lets read todays newspaper.
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  Who has UNconditional love?

  by patio34 in

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  i have seen the term 'unconditional love' used often in reference to jws.

  now, i understand the import: they love someone only on the condition that someone remains a jw "in good standing.

  however, the term 'unconditional love' is proferred in a positive light.

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  sleepy

  Unconditional love, theres another word for that .
  Stupidity.
  Anything without conditions is open to abuse.Think of the unconditional devotion to the "faithful slave".
  I would not expect someone to love me if I wronged them badly.
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  Friends we are too unbalanced.

  by sleepy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well sometimes we are.. look we have the knowledge and experience to help a lot of people.must of us have one time been jw's and understand how many think.so lets not put them off by being too negative.. when we were witnesses most of us were quite happy .

  we tried to be good people , to put into practise principles that many people think are good.

  we did this sometimes even when we didn't want to , because we thought god would hold us accountable and because we cared for people .

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  sleepy

  Better than what standard?