awww i never even knew about the#. thats a shame, i hope she feels better.
i hope someone out there can carry on the legacy.
the help-line is no longer operating.
marilyn is not well, and her voice is failing.
it has been hard for her to keep up with the help-line.
awww i never even knew about the#. thats a shame, i hope she feels better.
i hope someone out there can carry on the legacy.
i can only recall one occasion.
it was when my brother and future wife were dating.
they had dinner at my parents' house, along with her uber-zealous/borderline psychotic parents.
ive always thought the whole walking out thing is just a tool used by many jws to make themselves feel good by making others feel bad.
i remember being an extremely shy teen and being at afriends house when her crazy elder father pitched a hissy fit over "That Thing You Do". no idea what his problem with it was other than someone elses kid rented it and he wanted to pounce on an opportunity to make himself feel all real by browbeating a terrified fatherless teen girl (he didnt pull that shit with the kids who had dads he might have to answer to. f**king coward).
in a minimus moment, i find myself interested in knowing which buzz-words and phrases in jw publications stand out the most to you?
when i read wt literature, i constantly find myself astounded by how transparently cultish the language is.
in an earlier, unrelated thread, i said the following: .
RE: "happifying"
ive noticed this one referred to on here a few times, but ive never heard it n the vocab of witnesses. is it a regional thing? is it super old school?
as many of you will know, juan viejo2 (john hoyle) is a tireless worker behind the scenes when it comes to launching, running and assisting websites that help to expose the many fallacies of watchtower doctrine.
not only is he the genius behind ex-jw.com and insidethewatchtower.com, he also gave me a huge helping hand (before he even really knew me) by setting up jwsurvey.org, thus giving me a platform on which to run my survey and write my articles.. recently, john has also been helping randy watters (dogpatch) with a new improved version of freeminds.org (yet to be released) that will help to ensure the longevity and usefulness of that flagship jw website for many years to come.
if there is an unsung hero of the ex-jw community working behind the scenes to keep everything ticking, quietly tightening the bolts and oiling the joints of the apostate internet juggernaut, in my humble opinion it simply has to be john hoyle.. always looking for the next new project, and not content with already running an impressive portfolio of ex-jw sites, john has now launched watchtowerwatch.com - a website that will hopefully serve as a one-stop resource for some of the best jw-related content and stories on the web.
for those about to rock...
are you moving on?.
i see some have a very hard time in life because of their witness past..
yes, it is in ruins. theres so much collateral damage and wasted potential that comes with being a jw. you lead this stunted, pathetic life...and if youre smart enough to leave, you leave with nothing.
i look at the lives of people my age and see the relationships theyve built, rich, rewarding human relationships (the kind that take TIME) and i look at myself and just feel lonely and f**ked up.
oh well.
past the point of no return, the final threshold.
the bridge is crossed, so stand and watch it burn.
i've passed the point of no return.
i like the part about renouncing any 'authority they had over you'; well done Chad!
*grumblecakes applauds enthusiastically
i've raised this idea before but recent events seem to support it.
changes in the watchtower may be guided by more than a need for cash flow: they may simply be liquidating/shutting it down as discreetly as possible.. of course, this doesn't mean they stop working on their upstate ny country club - but it could mean that the throrough going exposure and disproof of their beliefs on the internet, when it emerged, took many of them by surprize, as it did many of us!
after awhile, they generally gave up trying to make any sense of their doctrines - and coupled with cash flow issues - moved towards a quiet retreat.. take a look at a few things:.
yeah, ive been wondering if they will result to tithing, or something like it.
the society has mandated the sale of our kingdom hall recently, so its now on the market. as a result a new property will have to be purchased and new hall built. so they asked all the publishers in the affected congs to fill out a form saying how much money they think they can donate towards this when the time comes. tThey said none of us are bound toward the donation, like if when the time comes and you just cant, you dont have to. i didnt fill out a form (like hell im filling out a form! i think the sale is BS!) i only saw it from a far, but this was the first time i heard of them asking for something like this.
ps they are saying the reason they are forcing the sale is because the property is worth so much, they can build soooo many 3rd world kingdom halls with that money!
more ramblings from the recently concluded elders' school.. see the op on this thread for background: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/242491/5/wt-elders-school-the-wts-has-progressed-from-just-plain-stupid-to-dangerously-stupid.
in part of the video mentioned above showing the "goofus" elder trying to handle the situation with the crying sister:.
the "goofus" elder went into the kingdom hall library alone with the sister when she left the auditorium.. you could hear literal, audible, gasps from the 100 or so elders watching the video.. a few moments later, as the sister was crying, "goofus" put out his hand and touched the sister's hand.. again, literal, loud, audible gasps from the audience.. they darkened the room while the video was playing so i couldn't see him, but i have to imagine the co was quite pleased that the audience grasped the "mistakes" that elder goofus was making.. .
"I wish there was a way someone could leak these videos (or even the whole training session). Could someone who hasn't yet had their training use a pinhole cam or a button cam or something? o.O"
Please please please??!?!?!?!?!?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=citaz613koc.
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cedars.
Ohhhh, how I dislike this Lett guy.
so i'm sitting at meeting yesterday (uck) and got board during the wt and noticed the article on pg 13 about all the different schools offered...it seems like theres a bunch now.
is this new or was i just not paying attention?
any theories?.
Yeah, what made me wonder about this was I just came outta the thread on 'are they cynically shutting down the org' and was thinking, it does seem like they are in financial trouble...if they are, why would they keep pushing full time service so hard? theyve got to understand that FT service=lower incomes=lower donations.
I get what youre saying about uniformity, but they accomplish the maintaining of uniformity quite well with all the meetings and assemblies. With the exception of the schools for overseers, they rest are all for various FT service.
maybe they arent really hurting for money :(