Quotes!!! That was a lot of work! Thank you for doing that.
Slipnslidemaster:"Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the darkside."
-Emperor Palpatine
Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America
hey guys,.
did not connect the way it was suppose to.
sorry.. pureheart
Quotes!!! That was a lot of work! Thank you for doing that.
Slipnslidemaster:"Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the darkside."
-Emperor Palpatine
Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America
who's got the upper hand at the moment, the watchtower org or the apostates.. when you first leave and find out there are many other like you , you can feel like the watchtower org is crumbling.but many have been out for years and the watchtower has continued to grow.. are efforts by apostates working?.
or is the watchtower able to easily counter them?.
do most leave the org due to efforts by those who have already walked out , or do most find their own way?.
I'm not so sure that this is a battle like that. If they want to be in, let them be in. However I think that we should focus our efforts much more on educating an unsuspecting public so that they know ahead of time what they are really in for.
Slipnslidemaster:"Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the darkside."
-Emperor Palpatine
Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America
just wondering about how many here feel they are fighters against the organisation of jehovahs witnesses, and how many consider themselves just recovering from the experience?.
i would say i am a fighter, that is i am against the org not just upset at what has happened to me.. how about you?
Fighter.
But it took a years of recovering. Now I'm just mad.
Slipnslidemaster:"Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the darkside."
-Emperor Palpatine
Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America
You got me.
Slipnslidemaster:"Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the darkside."
-Emperor Palpatine
Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/entertainment/3289653.htm .
posted on sat, may.
watchtower society responds to issues raised in book.
Email this gentleman your experiences with the brothers "compassion" of a rape.
I emailed him this morning with the following:
I'm sure that she's included the references in her book however Diane Wilson has written an essay on the subject of rape which I'm including as a link here:Slipnslidemaster:"Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the darkside."http://www.freeminds.org/psych/rape.htm
In addition to the horrible historical treatment of rape victims, which I'm sure you have or will recieve testimonials describing the outrageous "compassion" that has been shown to the victims.
You may want to check out quotes from various pieces of literature that the Jehovah's Witnesses have published over the years about rape here:
http://quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com/rape_is_fornication.htm
and
http://quotes.jehovahswitnesses.com/rape_not_fornication.htm
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Regarding their "adjustments" of doctrine, "new light" or "tacking" here is another essay on the subject:
http://www.geocities.com/veniceexjw/tacking.html
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David Semonian and the Jehovah's Witnesses Governing Body are excellent at saying perfectly reasonable explainations for everything. In fact they excel at that, however scratch the surface of 132 years of publication and 6,000,000 peoples lives and you find a MUCH different picture.
Ask those same questions to the average Witness that knocks at your door and I think that the answers won't be as polished as David Semonian's.
I am sorry that I'm emailing your anonymously. I was raised as one of Jehovah's Witnesses but keep my identity secret so that my views don't cost me my family and friends by disfellowshipping.
Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America
she tells me she registered as "shunned".
please give her the big warm apostate .
j w d style!!!.
((((((((((shunned))))))))))
I'm glad that you found us. A great big welcome to you!!
Slipnslidemaster:"Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the darkside."
-Emperor Palpatine
Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America
You will be contacted.
Slipnslidemaster:"Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the darkside."
-Emperor Palpatine
Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America
in a few more days i'll be making my departure from the wts, part of me is relieved and yet another part of me is dreading the drama i'll be going through shortly.
i've been trying to prepare myself for the deluge of questions that i know are sure to come from my family.
my wife will be the first person i tell obviously and then i'll tell my mother and younger brother.
I agree with Amazing's post 100%.
Slipnslidemaster:"Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the darkside."
-Emperor Palpatine
Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America
some time ago i briefly remember a thread that implied that there would be a big announcement coming from this organization?
something that would blow the wt out of the water.. still waiting patiently, or was this all a ruse?.
did i miss something here.
You will be contacted when the time is right.
Slipnslidemaster:"Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the darkside."
-Emperor Palpatine
Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America
i just showed the (bill bowen) cnn article to my father(active jw), and he started defending the jws before he even finished reading it.
why are they always so averse to looking at possible flaws?
its frustrating to see them constantly defending the faith, blindly.
Axe to grind or someone out for prominance to quote another father.
Slipnslidemaster:"Your feeble skills are no match for the power of the darkside."
-Emperor Palpatine
Unseen Apostate Directorate of North America