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  The awful treatment of my disfellowshipped cousin still continues

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my cousin was disfellowshipped twenty years ago when he was 18 years old.

  he admitted to the congregation elders that he was fornicating with his ''wordly'' girlfriend.

  the elders were following him and hiding in their cars to see what he was up to.

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  john.prestor

  That is shameful. Shame on them for daring to believe, daring to act like they get to see their new relative but not her father. It's unbelievably cold, self-centered, and frankly laughable: without the cousin they wouldn't have the baby, and now they want to pretend that what, she was born to the Virgin Mary?

  As for the burning in Hell remark, gotta agree with Exelder, there ain't no hell, there ain't no heaven, and wanting these people to burn in hell is little different than these people wanting the cousin to die at Armageddon for banging his girlfriend in a hotel room 20 years ago.
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  Jehovah's Witness parents prevent blood transfusions for three children

  by Not_Culty in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  feb 26 2019  jehovah's witness parents prevent blood transfusions for three children.

  the father said he was entitled to refuse to consent to the administering of a blood transfusion as he firmly believed that there were "medically acceptable alternatives that are as effective, if not more effective".. https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2019-02-26-jehovahs-witness-parents-prevent-blood-transfusions-for--three-children/.

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  john.prestor

  When it comes down to life-and-death matters I really don't care one bit about what someone believes as far as religion or spirituality goes. Allowing a 3 year old, 5 year old, or 10 year old to die because Nathan Knorr came up with some bizarre, anachronistic interpretation of a scripture in Acts 50, 60 years ago is despicable, and it's despicable that the only people who could change that interpretation without getting disfellowship for apostasy, the Governing Body, refuse to do so anyway. If the alternative treatment fails, and the father still refuses to allow them to receive blood transfusions, doctors should give them blood transfusions anyway. These kids will thank the doctors one day for saving their lives after their father chose his religion over them.
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  New Upcoming Changes - No More Publisher Record Cards & Reporting Hours

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  publisher record cards and reporting hours will be going away.

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  coming soon.. made this post 4 years ago, it happened - https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/24020002/kingdom-consolidation-sales-coming-reliable-source.

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  john.prestor

  They might get rid of reporting hours on paper, but they won't get rid of preaching, and I'm with the other posters here who assume they'll introduce electronic reporting instead. Preaching defines 'spirituality (effort) for Jehovah's Witnesses, you can't eliminate it without pulling the rug out from under pioneers, Elders, etc. who enjoy status for making that extra effort. Preaching also gets you places in the organization, I think you need to pioneer for two years straight to attend the School for Kingdom Evangelizers, for instance.

  Reporting preaching hours on paper might go. Preaching won't.
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  OK, We Need To Talk About The Crazy New Great Tribulation Video...

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if you haven't seen it already, skip to 1:14:30 in lloyds video and watch the craziness unfold.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2y7f7-k5wo.

  i'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on this.. they're digging themselves a great hole here, in about 30 years time they'll be claiming this video was a mere "speculation" and that "some people" got the wrong ideas..

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  john.prestor

  I can't see them dropping 1914 for 1919, why bother? They'll pick a date that gives them more time if they drop the former, I dunno, 1993 (I just picked that at random). But I thunk abandoning 1914 would 'stumble many older members but then again, who knows? They crowned themselves the faithful slave in what, 2014, with no obvious backlash or exodus.
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  Unspeakable arrogance - As Usual

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  today's wt para 1. if you are a young person, you have likely received much advice about your future.

  teachers, guidance counselors, or others may have encouraged you to pursue higher education and a lucrative career.

  jehovah, however, advises you to take a different course.

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  john.prestor

  Ita disengenuous for whoever wrote that article to repeat the same line they heard as kids to the latest generation as if it's fresh off the press when any Witness could dig this very same article (slightly reworded) out of a box of old Watchtowers in their basement or find it in some bound book in the Kingdom Hall library.
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  Suicide Attempts

  by APieceOfShitNamedTate in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  does anyone know if the new elders' manual addresses attempted suicide?

  in the previous manual, it was seen as a potential judicial matter, which is absolutely ridiculous.

  have they changed it?

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  Their approach in the new manual still comes across as weirdly clinical and impersonal. Read some magazines with them, really? How about give them a hug and then give them the floor, listen carefully to what they say, respond thoughtfully, and yes, suggest professional help. That gives the other person the chance to say what's on their mind instead of listening to what's on the Governing Body's.
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  Nudity in the movie "Roma"

  by Wonderment in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the movie "roma," a man is shown making some martial type moves with a sword totally naked.

  and the scene is not so brief, giving a clear glimpse of his private parts.

  it is a very graphic scene.

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  john.prestor

  How old are we, private parts? His penis, we're talking about his penis. Jesus people.
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  Introduction

  by Cerise in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello i am relatively new, reading a lot of experiences here for a while.

  i’m born in and baptized but i moved away from small town to a new congregation in big city so i have a good opportunity to fade now.

  all my good friends are worldly and my boyfriend.

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  john.prestor

  You'll give them all heart attacks right there, careful now, hahaha.
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  Introduction

  by Cerise in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello i am relatively new, reading a lot of experiences here for a while.

  i’m born in and baptized but i moved away from small town to a new congregation in big city so i have a good opportunity to fade now.

  all my good friends are worldly and my boyfriend.

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  john.prestor

  The Elders find out things about people either because they just get lucky and happen to see you quote-unquote sinning, because somebody else gets lucky and tells them, or because they contact you in the hopes that you'll give them something they can use: they might just happen to stop by your house and ask to come inside, or call you on the phone and ask questions that set you up to condemn yourself. I don't mean you specifically, that's just tactics Elders employ. Are you familiar with the Elders handbook Shepherd the Flock of God? Someone can hook you up with a PDF copy I'm sure, that tells you more about how they gather evidence and what evidence counts.
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  OK, I know this forum isn't exactly friends with JWSurvey, BUT...

  by Vidiot in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ...this, imo, is just too good to pass up:.

  https://jwsurvey.org/news/watch-tower-sues-facebook-mark-zuckerberg-for-contempt-of-court-demands-daily-fine.

  this bit especially made me laugh:.

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  john.prestor

  Jehovah has 'apparently' drawn? Wow, somebody chickened out.