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  Jesus Christ: Invented by the Romans to subvert the Messianic impulse in Judaism into Pacifism?

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  of course, there are many crackpot theories about all sorts of things.

  we hear about them,look into them and laugh.however, once in a great while, somebody presents a cogent and feasible thesis backed up by scholarship and history.watch this video presentation and present your rebuttal (or agreement) for discussion.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uqg8w7ezuq&t=268s.

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  john.prestor

  "His disciples went to their deaths because they held firm to the resurrection of Jesus, having seen them with their own eyes."

  Nope. They didn't. The only apostles who New Testament authors claim died as martyrs were Peter (obliquely referred to at the end of the Gospel of John) and James the son of Zebedee (in the Acts of the Apostles, which originally also claimed his brother John died with him, according to the Catholic theologian Alfred Loisy).

  Any other references to the martyrdom of apostles or disciples comes from late 2nd and early 3rd century "Acts of (John, Thomas, Peter, Matthew, etc.)" literature, which contain little more than pious legend. Have you read any of them, knowsnothing1?
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  Can the governing body be Trump(ed)?

  by eyeuse2badub in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  forgive me if someone else has already started a post on this subject.

  but the constant bs in the us news everyday influenced me to draw a parallel, at least in my mind!.

  have you also noticed a strongly similar pattern of behavior among the watchtower leaders (gb) and the president of the usa?

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  john.prestor

  Are you talking to me or to the OP? I love to smoke by the way, you should try it sometime.
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  WT is lying about the actual publisher numbers

  by JustHuman14 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i left wt, 18 years ago.

  never thought that i would have witness such a massive doctrinal and structure changes as well.

  i find it hard to recognize that religion.. what i can tell, like all of ex jw's is that wt going down.. their corporate directors know it.

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  john.prestor

  JW Gone Bad, they're definitely declining, no doubt about that... But I would be surprised if they don't keep going for a lot longer, just with less Witnesses, less hard copies, less Branches and Kingdom Halls, etc.
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  Can the governing body be Trump(ed)?

  by eyeuse2badub in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  forgive me if someone else has already started a post on this subject.

  but the constant bs in the us news everyday influenced me to draw a parallel, at least in my mind!.

  have you also noticed a strongly similar pattern of behavior among the watchtower leaders (gb) and the president of the usa?

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  john.prestor

  Yes, Donald Trump suffers from exhibitionist narcissism, and Jehovah's Witnesses as an organization has a collectively narcissistic culture, so their pretty similar. I can explain what I mean by that.
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  Coffee really is magic

  by john.prestor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm sitting here at my computer mapping out a hike for this afternoon, drinking a cup of coffee... the cup was a christmas present last year, i'm sure satan is just giddy.. .

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  john.prestor

  Ah, good morning to you too Morph. Never enjoyed some brisk winter air?
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  Coffee really is magic

  by john.prestor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm sitting here at my computer mapping out a hike for this afternoon, drinking a cup of coffee... the cup was a christmas present last year, i'm sure satan is just giddy.. .

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  john.prestor

  I'm sitting here at my computer mapping out a hike for this afternoon, drinking a cup of coffee... The cup was a Christmas present last year, I'm sure Satan is just giddy.

  
  
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  Controlled

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was talking to a friend who is an elder in a congregation near belfast city over in northern ireland.

  he was telling me that several of the sisters wanted to put fresh flowers in the hall on a weekly basis just to pretty the place up.

  he said "sure, why not, it's a great idea, and the congregation will reimburse the costs as long as they aren't too expensive.

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  john.prestor

  They've always had flowers at the Memorials I've gone to... I guess those must have been approved by the LDC?
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  Confidential books like Shepherd

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm trying to get as many confidential procedural books that have been leaked online.

  shepherd the flock (2010).

  circuit overseer guidelines (2017).

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  john.prestor

  Thank you, I didn't have those!
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  Confidential books like Shepherd

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i'm trying to get as many confidential procedural books that have been leaked online.

  shepherd the flock (2010).

  circuit overseer guidelines (2017).

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  john.prestor

  I'm trying to get as many confidential procedural books that have been leaked online. So far I have:

  Shepherd the Flock (2010)

  Circuit Overseer Guidelines (2017)

  Branch Organization (2003 and 2015)

  Correspondence Guidelines (2007)

  I also know of Governing Body Procedure (I asked about this a couple weeks ago, nobody seemed to know much about it)

  Does anyone know about or have any others book?
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  Ken Cook's Biography

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-january-2019/new-member-governing-body/ .

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  john.prestor

  This biography is unhelpful, just like they typically are. It tells us nothing about him as a person: not his background in any meaningful sense, for instance, or anything about his personality.