Exactly, if they cut you off they were never really your friends, just some people you met at the Kingdom Hall. You guys look happy, glad you're enjoying your life.
john.prestor
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10 years ago I woke up and found this site
by cantleave inthis was my first post on here...... https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/177753/hi-hope-am-welcome .
there have been a lot of changes since then .. i am healthier, happier, wealthier.
i have put the jw's well and truly behind me.
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Confidential
by john.prestor ini wanted to share a short story from my time studying that congregation (not studying with) where the elder told me 5 years to armageddon i thought some posters might enjoy, little mid-week chuckle that's what i'm going for here.. so this one elder in particular came across like he saw himself as a 'spiritual giant' (weird term cause i thought the nephilim caused all the problems before the flood but thats how jws talk about 'spiritual' people so hey, when in rome).
it just came across in how he held himself and the kinda cold, superior way he looked at you... well, until one sunday at least.. so i came into the hall for the sunday service and i saw him strutting around by the 'information board' (not bulletin board, god forbid) with a manilla folder he'd scrawled confidential across enormously in black sharpy.
he posted a couple letters and then strut into the sanctuary, where he got on stage to read for the watchtower study.
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john.prestor
I wanted to share a short story from my time studying that congregation (not studying with) where the Elder told me 5 years to Armageddon I thought some posters might enjoy, little mid-week chuckle that's what I'm going for here.
So this one Elder in particular came across like he saw himself as a 'spiritual giant' (weird term cause I thought the Nephilim caused all the problems before the Flood but thats how JWs talk about 'spiritual' people so hey, when in Rome). It just came across in how he held himself and the kinda cold, superior way he looked at you... well, until one Sunday at least.
So I came into the hall for the Sunday service and I saw him strutting around by the 'information board' (not bulletin board, God forbid) with a manilla folder he'd scrawled CONFIDENTIAL across enormously in black sharpy. He posted a couple letters and then strut into the sanctuary, where he got on stage to read for the Watchtower Study. Mid-study he announced with a kinda giddy voice something very close to 'Elders training schools are confidential of course but we're encouraged to share some things with the Brothers,' it was barely related to the study question if relevant at all, and then said 'this is the only organization where publishers are treated like kings, the only organization where the higher up you go the more you serve.'
I almost lost it right there. How do you say that with a straight face?
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Big Announcement in Montreal
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara injust got the heads up from montreal that 16 congregations will cease to exist from 1 april 2019. also 3 kh are no longer going to be used anymore.
this was a major announcement for many and upsetting.
wonder where the r& f are going to be dispersed with what sacrifices in the way!.
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john.prestor
That's... a lot of congregations. Not a good sign needless to say.
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Why do Jehovah's Witness members incriminate themselves in judicial meeting?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inwhy do jehovah's witness members incriminate themselves to any judicial process?
how can three elders conduct a judicial meeting with a 15-year-old teenage girl who supposedly was rumored to fornicate, took drugs or was drunk from drinking alcohol?
can she or the parents refuse to answer any questions?.
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john.prestor
That makes a lot of sense, so in other words you put pressure on yourself because they teach you to interpret any minor mishap as the grave consequences of your sin, so you confess thinking that's a 'get out of misfortune free' card...
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Why do Jehovah's Witness members incriminate themselves in judicial meeting?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inwhy do jehovah's witness members incriminate themselves to any judicial process?
how can three elders conduct a judicial meeting with a 15-year-old teenage girl who supposedly was rumored to fornicate, took drugs or was drunk from drinking alcohol?
can she or the parents refuse to answer any questions?.
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john.prestor
I only spoke to a few people who suffered through something like that so I'm relying on my background in the social sciences here. Part of It's probably them hoping that if they confess the elders will let them off easy, and from what I see on here that actually does happen sometimes. Part of it's the pressure of three authoritative, respected men questioning you in a small room, kind of like getting interrogated by cops, they don't let up until they get what they want. And part of it's the fact that Witnesses tend to believe that if they don't confess their sins to the elders Jesus won't forgive them their sins, which means he'll kill them at Armageddon. There's probably other factors too, hopefully some other posters will share their thoughts.
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"No more than 40 years"
by dynamiterose77 inin another corner of the internet someone stated that witnesses are proclaiming that this system will be no more than 40 years now... that "gog of magog" will start the great tribulation.
can anyone confirm this latest "prediction"?.
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john.prestor
At jwfacts.com you can find an article that contains a ton of material showing JW elites strongly insinuated 1975 would welcome in Armageddon. It's no mistake membership fell in 76 and 77.
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What holidays are they talking about?
by carla inin the elders manual under apostasy,.
"1) celebrating false religious holidays: (ex.
32:4-6; jer.
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john.prestor
LongHairGal, I come to the same exact conclusion. It's another subtle way they corral Jehovah's Witnesses so they stay within their pasture. They make every effort to keep them from connecting with others in every imaginable context, school, work, travel abroad (gotta wear nametags so everyone knows you're a JW or weird as hell), online (don't play video games on XBOX live), etc. In and of itself the ban on holidays looks petty and misguided, but it's one piece in a larger puzzle that reveals the true faces of those building it. .
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"No more than 40 years"
by dynamiterose77 inin another corner of the internet someone stated that witnesses are proclaiming that this system will be no more than 40 years now... that "gog of magog" will start the great tribulation.
can anyone confirm this latest "prediction"?.
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john.prestor
Never heard anything like that but I haven't set foot in a Kingdom Hall in 2 or 3 years now except for the odd Memorial. It's probably like that story I shared a few weeks ago about an Elder telling me the CO said 5 years to go, it's not official policy. Maybe somebody told them about Flodin's morning worship remark a year or two back, 'does that mean this old system will last until 2040?' and either heard it wrong to remembered it wrong and just went with the 40 part
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Only jw's .....
by carla in"(14) arranging for elders to visit or write a letter to addresses of households that have asked that no further visits be made.—see 23:21.".
what is so hard for them to understand that someone is requesting to be a 'do not call'?.
how does that conversation go?.
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john.prestor
It's like they pretend they don't get what the person wants when they ask for that.
Householder: Don't visit me anymore.
JW: Okay, we'll right you letters, happy to oblige.
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What holidays are they talking about?
by carla inin the elders manual under apostasy,.
"1) celebrating false religious holidays: (ex.
32:4-6; jer.
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john.prestor
From what I read and saw in the Bible Teach book as far as illustrations they single out Christmas (too ecumenical, too many chances to connect with your family and community) and Halloween (too 'spiritistic'). The others they dont seem to talk much about, but like truthlover123 said, that might vary by circuit or even hall.